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* Whenever a graphical application is added to (or updated in) Canonical Partners, Brian Thomason has needed to remember to rebuild the `app-install-data-commercial` package. Almost [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-commercial/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=OPINION&field.status:list=EXPIRED&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status:list=FIXRELEASED|every bug in that package]] represents a cost of not generating that index automatically. (In Natty, Canonical Partners will be merged with the for-purchase archive, but that will just change one kind of manual work to another.) | * Whenever a graphical application is added to (or updated in) Canonical Partners, Brian Thomason has needed to remember to rebuild the `app-install-data-commercial` package. Almost [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-commercial/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=OPINION&field.status:list=EXPIRED&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status:list=FIXRELEASED|every bug in that package]] represents a cost of not generating that index automatically. (In future, Canonical Partners may be merged with the for-purchase archive, but that would just change one kind of manual work to another.) |
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The relevant data can be extracted by inspecting the deb package after the build (similar to what the pot file extraction is doing). Alternatively it can do the processing in batches by querrying what new deb packages became available since the last run of the extraction script. Please note that additional source may be used that are not inside the package itself (e.g. the popcon database or in the future user-generated meta-data). |
The relevant data should be extracted by inspecting `.deb` packages either immediately after each package is built (similar to what the `.pot` file extraction does), or in batches by querying what new `.deb` packages became available since the last run of the extraction script. In future, additional sources may be used that are not inside the package itself (e.g. the `popcon` database, or future [[UserContributedMetadata|user-contributed metadata]]). |
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The implementation should be flexible as there is more information that can be extracted. Initially we want the desktop file and the icon associated with it. But information about the commands that the file puts into /bin/ and /usr/bin for command-not-found is also interessting. |
The implementation should be flexible, as there is more information that can be extracted. Initially we want the `.desktop` file and the icon associated with it. But information about the commands that the file puts into `/bin` and `/usr/bin` for `command-not-found` is also interesting. |
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One (but potentially more in the future) file should be geneated alongside the Packages.gz file to store the additional relevant meta-data from the desktop files. This file should be called "AppInfo" for the C locale and "AppInfo-$lang" for the other locales. |
A file should be generated alongside the `Packages.gz` file, to store the additional relevant metadata from the desktop files. This file should be called `AppInfo` for the `C` locale, and `AppInfo-`''$lang'' for other locales. (Potentially more files may be generated in the future.) |
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Space and amount of files (because of rsync) are a issues for mirrors. The AppInfo/CommandNotFound data is small and textual, so its no problem to publish it in e.g. rfc822 format alongside Packages file (the extact format does not matter to apt, it will just download it, other apps like update-apt-xapian-index will parse it). But to make it consistent with the rest of data we should simply use RFC-822. |
The file should use RFC-822-style format, for consistency with the `Packages` file (though the exact format does not matter to `apt`, since it will just download the file, while other programs like `update-apt-xapian-index` will parse it). For `rsync`ed archive mirrors, space and amount of files are issues, but the data AppInfo/CommandNotFound data is small and textual, so it is no problem to use RFC-822. |
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Icons are relatively big (~5k/app; currently we have ~1800 icons=7Mb) so its not feasible to stuff them into a single file, especially if we expect a lot of churn (like on extra.ubuntu.com that will also use this system). For this reason, they should be published as individual files on e.g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/icons (or) http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/icons This means that its the job of the client to dynamically fetch the icons from the local mirror and cache them. This is what is done on e.g. android as well. |
Icons are relatively big (~5 KB/app ✕ ~1800 icons = 7 MB), so it is not feasible to stuff them into a single file, especially if we expect a lot of churn (like on `extras.ubuntu.com` that will also use this system). For this reason, they should be published as individual files, for example `http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/icons` or `http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/icons`. Then it will be the job of a client to dynamically fetch needed icons from the local mirror and cache them (as is done on Android, for example). |
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A package may want to override the AppInfo for itself instead of using the desktop file. This should be supported on multiple levels. |
A package may want to override the `AppInfo` for itself, instead of using the `.desktop` file. This should be supported on multiple levels. |
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It should be possible to blacklist a package via "XB-NoAppInfo: 1" in its control file. This means that the package will not be scanned for desktop files at all. |
* It should be possible to blacklist a package via `XB-NoAppInfo: 1` in its control file. This means that the package will not be scanned for `.desktop` files at all. |
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It should also be possible to override all of the appinfo by having a debian/appinfo file in the source package that overrides the desktop extraction entirely and forces the system to simply use this file. This requires the extraction to look into the source package for this file first (if that is tricky to implement we could move it into the binary to a known path). |
* It should also be possible to override all of the appinfo by having a `debian/appinfo` file in the source package that overrides the desktop extraction entirely and forces the system to simply use this file. This requires the extraction to look into the source package for this file first (if that is tricky to implement we could move it into the binary to a known path). |
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And finally if the .desktop file contains "X-AppInfo" fields already, the extractor should honor those and keep them. This is useful if e.g. X-AppInfo-Package is wrong on extraction. If a desktop file lifes in "wesnoth-common" but the package we want is "wesnoth" this is a good way to override it. |
* Finally, if the .desktop file contains `X-AppInfo-`''*'' fields already, the extractor should honor those and keep them. This is useful if (for example) `X-AppInfo-Package` is wrong on extraction. For example, if the `.desktop` file for the `wesnoth` game lives in `wesnoth-common`, this is a good way to override it. |
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The current data extractor can be found in lp:~mvo/archive-crawler/mvo A similar (but more clever) approach as this script may be taken to gather the data. |
The current data extractor can be found in [[https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/archive-crawler/mvo|lp:~mvo/archive-crawler/mvo]]. A similar (but more clever) approach as this script may be taken to gather the data. |
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On a soyuz machine with a full mirror the script runs every hour (or two hours) and checks with the DB what new deb packages are available since it ran last. Those are fetched and inspected and written to a local sqlite database (or the LP database) and the icons are extracted and stored as well. Because all the data can be rebuild by simply running the extraction again its probably enough to have a local cache db. Then the script generates the AppInfo and AppInfo-$lang files and populates the icon directory. In this step it also needs to do orphan clenaup, i.e. removing packages that are no longer in the archive. A rsync cron job is then required to rsync the generated file onto archive.ubuntu.com. |
On a Soyuz machine with a full mirror, this script runs every hour (or two hours), and checks with the DB what new deb packages are available since it ran last. Those are fetched and inspected and written to a local `sqlite` database (or the LP database) and the icons are extracted and stored as well. Because all the data can be rebuild by simply running the extraction again, its probably enough to have a local cache DB. Then the script generates the `AppInfo` and `AppInfo-`''$lang'' files and populates the icon directory. In this step it also needs to do orphan cleanup, ''i.e.'' removing packages that are no longer in the archive. An `rsync` `cron` job is then required to sync the generated file onto `archive.ubuntu.com`. |
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Icon extraction can be tricky as the icon may be stored in a different package than the desktop file (e.g. emacs-common vs emacs23). |
Icon extraction can be tricky, as the icon may be stored in a different package than the desktop file (e.g. emacs-common vs emacs23). |
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* appname (potentially multi language) * packagename * pkgversion (to ensure we can validate our data is not stale) * Comment (friendly summary) - multi language * popcon - probably not needed anymore once we have ratings * keywords (X-AppInstall-Keywords) * iconname * Categories * mime-type * codec-info |
* `appname` (potentially multi language) * `packagename` * `pkgversion` (to ensure we can validate our data is not stale) * `Comment` (friendly summary) - multi language * `popcon` - probably not needed anymore once we have ratings * `keywords` (X-AppInstall-Keywords) * `iconname` * `Categories` * `mime-type` * `codec-info` |
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* one pkg may contain multiple apps, app names are not uniq (e.g. Terminal is used multiple times) |
* one pkg may contain multiple apps * app names are not unique (e.g. Terminal is used multiple times). |
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* debian/control modifications * debian/something.desktop with X-App-Install tags * debian/something.something for command-not-found hints |
* `debian/control` modifications * `debian/something.desktop` with `X-App-Install` tags * `debian/something.something` for `command-not-found` hints |
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* whether it's available in my language (may change after package upload since translation packages are different) |
* whether it’s available in my language (may change after package upload since translation packages are different) |
Archive index
As an Ubuntu packager
I want correct names, icons, and categories for applications to appear in Ubuntu Software Center automatically
so that I don’t need to remember to do it myself, or run the risk of messing it up.
As an application developer
I want to see the eventual application name, icon, category etc when the application is in my testing PPA
so that I can correct any errors before the application reaches one of the official repositories.
Ubuntu’s app-install-data-ubuntu and app-install-data-commercial packages, and for-purchase application metadata, should be replaced with a single automated system. Soyuz should produce for each archive it controls — including Multiverse, Canonical Partners, and every other PPA — an index of names, icons, summaries, categories, and keywords for all software items in the archive. (A “software item” in this sense mostly corresponds to a binary package, but in some cases one binary package contains multiple applications that should have separate information.) Launchpad should put this index in a standard place in the archive, and rebuild it whenever a package is added or changed.
Rationale
Since the beginning of Ubuntu’s Lucid cycle, we have wanted to get rid of app-install-data-ubuntu and app-install-data-commercial:
- they are slow and difficult to update
the time we want to update app-install-data-ubuntu is when the archive is frozen
- there are exceptions and bugs, so software shows up in Ubuntu Software Center that isn’t installable (or conversely, is hidden as a “technical item” when it isn’t)
- they work only for Main, Universe, and Partner, not for PPAs, Multiverse, or third-party archives.
Ongoing cost of not doing this
Whenever a graphical application is added to Main or Universe, or its icon changes, Michael Vogt needs to rebuild the app-install-data-ubuntu package. Almost every bug in this package represents a cost of not generating this index automatically.
- Whenever a for-purchase application is added to the Ubuntu Software Center store, Brian Thomason or Michael Vogt needs to manually add metadata for the package to the Software Center Agent. This can’t scale beyond a few dozen applications per week. (They also need to register the price of the application; that needs to be automated separately.)
Whenever a graphical application is added to (or updated in) Canonical Partners, Brian Thomason has needed to remember to rebuild the app-install-data-commercial package. Almost every bug in that package represents a cost of not generating that index automatically. (In future, Canonical Partners may be merged with the for-purchase archive, but that would just change one kind of manual work to another.)
Whenever an open-source application goes through the post-release process, the packager needs to add custom metadata fields to debian/control, metadata that duplicates existing fields in the application’s .desktop file. They shouldn’t have to do this.
Stakeholders
Matthew Paul Thomas, representing Michael Vogt and Brian Thomason
Implementation
The relevant data should be extracted by inspecting .deb packages either immediately after each package is built (similar to what the .pot file extraction does), or in batches by querying what new .deb packages became available since the last run of the extraction script. In future, additional sources may be used that are not inside the package itself (e.g. the popcon database, or future user-contributed metadata).
The implementation should be flexible, as there is more information that can be extracted. Initially we want the .desktop file and the icon associated with it. But information about the commands that the file puts into /bin and /usr/bin for command-not-found is also interesting.
File format
A file should be generated alongside the Packages.gz file, to store the additional relevant metadata from the desktop files. This file should be called AppInfo for the C locale, and AppInfo-$lang for other locales. (Potentially more files may be generated in the future.)
The file should use RFC-822-style format, for consistency with the Packages file (though the exact format does not matter to apt, since it will just download the file, while other programs like update-apt-xapian-index will parse it). For rsynced archive mirrors, space and amount of files are issues, but the data AppInfo/CommandNotFound data is small and textual, so it is no problem to use RFC-822.
A example file might look like this:
Package: gnome-utils Version: 2.23.1-0ubuntu1 Popcon: 17939 Section: main Icon: baobab Name: Disk Usage Analyzer Comment: Check folder sizes and available disk space Exec: baobab Categories: GTK;GNOME;Utility;
and a localized one:
Package: gnome-utils Version: 2.23.1-0ubuntu1 Popcon: 17939 Section: main Icon: baobab Name-de: Festplatten Überprüfer Comment-de: Überprüfen des verfügbaren Platzes Exec: baobab Categories: GTK;GNOME;Utility;
Icons are relatively big (~5 KB/app ✕ ~1800 icons = 7 MB), so it is not feasible to stuff them into a single file, especially if we expect a lot of churn (like on extras.ubuntu.com that will also use this system). For this reason, they should be published as individual files, for example http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/icons or http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/icons. Then it will be the job of a client to dynamically fetch needed icons from the local mirror and cache them (as is done on Android, for example).
Overrides
A package may want to override the AppInfo for itself, instead of using the .desktop file. This should be supported on multiple levels.
It should be possible to blacklist a package via XB-NoAppInfo: 1 in its control file. This means that the package will not be scanned for .desktop files at all.
It should also be possible to override all of the appinfo by having a debian/appinfo file in the source package that overrides the desktop extraction entirely and forces the system to simply use this file. This requires the extraction to look into the source package for this file first (if that is tricky to implement we could move it into the binary to a known path).
Finally, if the .desktop file contains X-AppInfo-* fields already, the extractor should honor those and keep them. This is useful if (for example) X-AppInfo-Package is wrong on extraction. For example, if the .desktop file for the wesnoth game lives in wesnoth-common, this is a good way to override it.
Extraction
The current data extractor can be found in lp:~mvo/archive-crawler/mvo. A similar (but more clever) approach as this script may be taken to gather the data.
On a Soyuz machine with a full mirror, this script runs every hour (or two hours), and checks with the DB what new deb packages are available since it ran last. Those are fetched and inspected and written to a local sqlite database (or the LP database) and the icons are extracted and stored as well. Because all the data can be rebuild by simply running the extraction again, its probably enough to have a local cache DB. Then the script generates the AppInfo and AppInfo-$lang files and populates the icon directory. In this step it also needs to do orphan cleanup, i.e. removing packages that are no longer in the archive. An rsync cron job is then required to sync the generated file onto archive.ubuntu.com.
Icon extraction can be tricky, as the icon may be stored in a different package than the desktop file (e.g. emacs-common vs emacs23).
Stuff we want to extract:
- desktop file:
appname (potentially multi language)
packagename
pkgversion (to ensure we can validate our data is not stale)
Comment (friendly summary) - multi language
popcon - probably not needed anymore once we have ratings
keywords (X-AppInstall-Keywords)
iconname
Categories
mime-type
codec-info
- Icons
- as individual files that get dynamically fetched
- command not found data
packagename -> binaries
- PROBLEM diverts etc, real world problem for e.g. vim
Roadmap
- Start with non-localized data and only for PPAs
- Expand to the full archive
- iteratively survey the differences between app-install-data and the metadata Soyuz is producing
- fix bugs in the packages and/or in Soyuz
Issues
- A .desktop file is in a separate package from the package you're actually interested in
- e.g. wesnoth-data vs. wesnoth
- e.g. emacs-common contains the icon for emacs22
- this should be fixed in the packages themselves with the override mechanism
- A icon file is in a seperate package from the desktop file
- check how common that actually is
- Keywords/comments should be available in rosetta for translation, ideally as a additional template in the ubuntu package translation page
- one pkg may contain multiple apps
- app names are not unique (e.g. Terminal is used multiple times).
Open issues
- need to disuss and create a standard for what kind of metadata can be supplied within the package and finalize the override mechanism
debian/control modifications
debian/something.desktop with X-App-Install tags
debian/something.something for command-not-found hints
- provide a way (LP/external site) to allow easy modifications/cleanup of metadata (improve descriptions, improve categories etc)
- Things this metadata might contain in the future:
- hardware/software requirements (opengl etc)
- whether it’s available in my language (may change after package upload since translation packages are different)
Success
We will we know we are done when the app-install-data-ubuntu and app-install-data-commercial packages are removed from the Ubuntu archive.