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<matsubara> #startmeeting
<MootBot> Meeting started at 11:02. The chair is matsubara.
<MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
<matsubara> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues. 
<matsubara> [TOPIC] Roll Call 
<MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
<sinzui> me
<matsubara> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us! 
<Ursinha-sprint> me
<adeuring> me
<adeuring> (replacing allenap today)
<matsubara> Chex, hi
<Chex> me
<matsubara> rockstar, hi
* rockstar stumbles into the meeting
<matsubara> gary won't be around today, I'll be standing in for foundations
* henninge (~henning@canonical/launchpad/henninge) has joined #launchpad-meeting
<Ursinha-sprint> henninge, :)
<matsubara> hi henninge 
<henninge> Hi Ursinha-sprint ;)
<henninge> Hi matsubara ;)
<matsubara> hmm bigjools is not around
<matsubara> noodles775, can you stand in for soyuz?
<henninge> matsubara: at somehands
<sinzui> matsubara, he not avialable today
<matsubara> all right. we can move on and if something comes up specific to soyuz, I'll contact them
<matsubara> [TOPIC] Agenda 
<MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
<matsubara>  * Actions from last meeting
<matsubara>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
<matsubara>  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
<matsubara>  * DBA report (stub)
<matsubara>  * QA stats of the week
<matsubara>  * Proposed items
<matsubara> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
<MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
<matsubara>  * matsubara to talk with gary_poster about  a CP for bug 553361
<matsubara>     * Done, fixed. I'll will request a CP.
<matsubara>  * allenap to bump bug 230106 to High and explain why
<matsubara>     * Done.
<matsubara>  * matsubara to discuss bug 54005 with gary_poster
<matsubara>     * Done. I'll file an RT for this one.
<matsubara>  * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 553361 in launchpad-foundations "OOPS when accessing launchpad with no referrer, eg. via wget" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553361
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 230106 in malone "emails interface oops reports need better error messages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230106
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 54005 in launchpad-foundations "bugs.launchpad.ubuntu.com email ending up in Launchpad mailbox" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54005
<matsubara> for 553361, I'll land it today and request the CP
<matsubara> I filed rt #39164 for bug 54005
<matsubara> Ursinha-sprint, did you have time to triage lp-qa-tools bugs?
<Ursinha-sprint> matsubara, I haven't done mine
<matsubara> [action] * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
<MootBot> ACTION received:  * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
<matsubara> let's move on
<matsubara> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
<MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
<matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/575976 -- sinzui already triaged. thanks!
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 575976 in launchpad-registry "Person.__repr__ causes an oops masking the real error because displayname is unicode" [Low,Triaged]
<matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/576015 -- also already triaged by Tim. rockstar send my thanks to him, please :-)
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 576015 in launchpad-code "+addbranch oops with a TypeError" [High,Triaged]
<matsubara> and there's this weird keyerror: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops/?oopsid=OOPS-1585G1243 
<ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1585G1243
<sinzui> matsubara, I can fix that in before our next meeting
<matsubara> which I'll bring up to the foundations team and file a bug
<matsubara> [action] matsubara to talk to foundations about OOPS-1585G1243 
<MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to talk to foundations about OOPS-1585G1243
<ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1585G1243
<ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1585G1243
<matsubara> that's great to hear sinzui. thanks!
<matsubara> we have some broken scripts: ppa-generate-keys which noodles775 is taking care of
<matsubara> calculate_bug_heat is failing. adeuring can you follow up the script failure email sent to the list please?
<henninge> Also, template generation from branches is not working yet.
<adeuring> matsubara: sure
<matsubara> [action] adeuring to follow up on calculate_bug_heat script failure
<MootBot> ACTION received:  adeuring to follow up on calculate_bug_heat script failure
<matsubara> we have 4 critical bugs, 2 in progress.
<matsubara> one from soyuz and another one from foundations
<matsubara> I'll chase the foundations one
<matsubara> [action] matsubara to chase landing for bug 574493
<MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to chase landing for bug 574493
<matsubara> [action] matsubara to chase landing for bug 575426
<MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to chase landing for bug 575426
<ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/574493)
<ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/574493)
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 575426 in soyuz "SHA1-based copy checking breaks when there are expired sources in the target" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575426
<matsubara> I think that's it for this section
<matsubara> let's move on
<matsubara> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
<MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
<Chex> hello everyone, here is this weeks report
<matsubara> Chex, hi
<matsubara> oops, go ahead
<Chex> - LP rollout 10.04 occured on Tuesday; 04-May. Some issues were:
<Chex>         : cesium: problems with buildmanager
<Chex>         : guava: crash/lockup problems with codebrowse/loggerhead that were fixed by mwhudson
<Chex>         : forster: issues with mailman, that an extensive cowboy fix was needed to get working.
<Chex> - LP re-roll/CP 9336 on Wed 05-May: to address issues with codebrowse, mailman, and builddmanager.
<Chex>         : The mailman, and builddmanager changes needed to be rolled back, for continued fixes.
<Chex>         : codebrowse issues seemed to be address, is stable now after the mwhudson fix
<Chex> wow, lots of typos, sorry for my poor grammar there. :/
<Chex> anyone who can read that have any comments/questions??
<matsubara> Chex, given that the mailman and builddmanager had to be rolled back, are we expecting another re-roll try? 
<sinzui> Chex, you can always blame me as the cause of the poor grammar
<matsubara> Chex, hmm actually, I think Francis said they will be CP later on using the regular CP process
<matsubara> Chex, so, nm :-)
<Chex> matsubara: yes I just saw his email to that effect, we have opened PQM now
<matsubara> cool. thanks Chex 
<Chex> matsubara: welcome, and thanks
<matsubara> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
<MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
<matsubara> I'll ask stub for the DBA report 
<Chex> sinzui: ;) I can write poorly on my own..
<matsubara> [action] matsubara to ask for the DBA report
<MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to ask for the DBA report
<matsubara> [TOPIC] * QA stats of the week
<MootBot> New Topic:  * QA stats of the week
<matsubara> launchpad-buildd: 12
<matsubara> malone: 10
<matsubara> lp-dev-utils: 9
<matsubara> launchpadlib: 9
<matsubara> launchpad-dev-moin-theme: 6
<matsubara> launchpad-foundations: 6
<matsubara> soyuz: 4
<matsubara> lp-qa-tools: 3
<matsubara> launchpad-help-moin-theme: 3
<matsubara> lpbuildbot: 2
<matsubara> trac-launchpad-migrator: 2
<matsubara> launchpad-news-wordpress-theme: 2
<matsubara> launchpad-cscvs: 2
<matsubara> launchpad: 1
<matsubara> launchpad-web: 1
<matsubara> oops-tools: 1
<matsubara> launchpad-loggerhead: 1
<matsubara> launchpad-documentation: 1
<matsubara> tickcount: 1
<matsubara> those are the projects with untriaged bugs
<matsubara> Code: 1
<matsubara> Foundations: 1
<matsubara> Registry: 0
<matsubara> Bugs: 7 needstesting, 1 bad
<matsubara> Translations: 2
<matsubara> Soyuz: 2
<matsubara> Strategy: 0
<matsubara> and those are the untested items
<Ursinha-sprint> lp-qa-tools is my fault
<Ursinha-sprint> left from 10.04
<matsubara> which means some QA wasn't done in time for the release
<matsubara> or the tags weren't updated
<matsubara> in any case, no cookies for you guys!
<matsubara> well, only for sinzui
<matsubara> and jono
<matsubara> well, jml
<sinzui> answers and blueprints are 0 too
<Ursinha-sprint> three cookies for sinzui
<matsubara> hehehe
<Ursinha-sprint> another thing to note is the number of orphaned commits this cycle
<Ursinha-sprint> we had 86 OC in 226 commits, I wonder if all of them are really unQAable
<Ursinha-sprint> these in devel branch: https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/QATeam/OrphanedCommits/10.04-devel
<Ursinha-sprint> 28 out of 150 in db-devel branch: https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/QATeam/OrphanedCommits/10.04-db-devel
<Ursinha-sprint> I'd like to ask all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
<matsubara> [action] all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
<MootBot> ACTION received:  all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
<Ursinha-sprint> I wonder if anyone is reading that :)
<Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, sinzui, adeuring, henninge, noodles775, hi :)
<rockstar> Ursinha-sprint, hi
<adeuring> Ursinha-sprint: yes, I'm making notes ;)
<Ursinha-sprint> adeuring, thanks :)
<henninge> matsubara: I read it now.
<henninge> Ursinha-sprint: ^
<Ursinha-sprint> henninge, thanks :)
<henninge> matsubara: I only see one untested bug left, I think the other was retargeted.
<henninge> matsubara: and this one is critical.
<Ursinha-sprint> henninge, is the bug left really testable/landed this cycle?
<henninge> Ursinha-sprint: it was in the re-roll (the config change) but the server were it takes effect has been reverted ... ;)
<henninge> :(
<Ursinha-sprint> henninge, oh :/
<sinzui> Ursinha-sprint, I am sorry that I did not check that before. Those items were checked as a part of other bugs, or were changes to the test infrastructure
<henninge> bug 575065
<Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, I see
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 575065 in rosetta "Enable automatic generation of templates" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575065
<Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, thanks for the info
<Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, could you take that to your team, please?
<rockstar> Ursinha-sprint, yes.
<Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, thanks a lot
<sinzui> I wil ask that my team as developers or reviewer to insist on bug numbers to track why the change was made
<Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, thanks! that'd be really great
<sinzui> ec2 land looks to the main reason we are missing bug numbers
<Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, I thought ec2land added automatically the bug number to the commit message
<Ursinha-sprint> if the bug is linked, of course..
<Ursinha-sprint> linked to the mp, that is
<matsubara> sinzui, is it broken? why is it the main reason?
<sinzui> I think that is correct. I see a lot of contributor branches that do not link bugs
<sinzui> I am just noting that most of the problem branches were landed using ec2 land
<Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, hm, interesting
<matsubara> please, QA contacts, as developers and reviewers, remind your teammates that --fixes=lp:NNNN can be used to help out there.
<matsubara> when a commit is made using --fixes, LP will do the right thing automagically and avoid the extra work
<matsubara> anyway, I think that's it
<matsubara> [TOPIC] * Proposed items
<MootBot> New Topic:  * Proposed items
<matsubara> there's no proposed items
<matsubara> anything else before I close?
<matsubara> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda  for the logs. 
<matsubara> #endmeeting 
<MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:35.