= ReviewerMeeting20090114 =

== summary ==

'''Note: barry's logs are garbled due to irc client stupidity; he missed quite
a bit of the meeting.'''

 * mars to stop regular ocr to do js reviews on call.  this will continue until we have more js reviewers
 * abel graduates


== logs ==

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Jan 14 10:00:19 <barry>	#startmeeting
Jan 14 10:00:38 <barry>	mooooootbooottt!
Jan 14 10:00:53 <barry>	anyway, welcome everyone to this week's ameu reveiwer's meeting.  who's here today?
Jan 14 10:00:58 <abentley>	me
Jan 14 10:00:59 <bac>	me
Jan 14 10:01:01 <mars>	me
Jan 14 10:01:01 <EdwinGrubbs>	me
Jan 14 10:01:01 <sinzui>	me
Jan 14 10:01:02 <adeuring>	me
Jan 14 10:01:04 <flacoste>	me
Jan 14 10:01:08 <gary_poster>	me
Jan 14 10:02:00 <allenap>	me
Jan 14 10:02:31 <adeuring>	barry: shouting at machines can have bad side-effects: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
Jan 14 10:02:48 <barry>	adeuring: will check that out later :)
Jan 14 10:03:19 <danilos>	me
Jan 14 10:03:21 <barry>	[TOPIC] agenda
Jan 14 10:03:27 <barry>	 * Roll call
Jan 14 10:03:27 <barry>	 * mars to stop ocr, will review js on call until more reviewers are trained
Jan 14 10:03:27 <barry>	 * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
Jan 14 10:03:27 <barry>	 * Action items
Jan 14 10:03:27 <barry>	 * Mentoring update
Jan 14 10:03:54 <barry>	[TOPIC]  * mars to stop ocr, will review js on call until more reviewers are trained
Jan 14 10:04:34 <barry>	so.  mars is going to stop doing regular ocr for a while, but he will be doing js reviews on call.  this will last until we have more js reviewers trained up to spread the load
Jan 14 10:04:54 *	kfogel (i=kfogel@cpe-69-201-182-175.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #launchpad-meeting
Jan 14 10:05:02 <barry>	my only concern is ocr coverage for thursdays
Jan 14 10:05:10 <mars>	well, we have experienced JS reviewers - they're just spread out :)
Jan 14 10:05:11 <barry>	since there's no euro coverage on thursdays
Jan 14 10:05:20 <barry>	mars: ah
Jan 14 10:05:26 <danilos>	mars: are you really happy with allowing review requests to come at any time? that might be a bit hard on you
Jan 14 10:06:01 <danilos>	(i.e. I'd suggest keeping a time slot as well, and allowing pre-arrangements in other cases)
Jan 14 10:06:04 <mars>	danilos, I find myself doing so anyway, for the YUI integration.  Ironcially, I hope that this frees up more time to code :)
Jan 14 10:06:17 <danilos>	mars: right, if that's the case, go for it :)
Jan 14 10:06:59 <barry>	if thursday ocr coverage is a problem, maybe we can talk intellectronica into coming back from sabbatical
Jan 14 10:07:29 <barry>	or shuffle people around once we have a few more graduations (we have 4 mentats now)
Jan 14 10:08:10 <barry>	any other thoughts on this?
Jan 14 10:09:32 <barry>	[TOPIC]  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
Jan 14 10:09:46 <barry>	do you have anything on your mind that's not on the agenda?
Jan 14 10:11:03 <barry>	okay!
Jan 14 10:11:11 <barry>	[TOPIC]  * Action items
Jan 14 10:11:23 <barry>	i have not done my two action items :/
Jan 14 10:11:29 <barry>	 * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet
Jan 14 10:12:23 <barry>	okay!
Jan 14 10:12:31 <barry>	[TOPIC] mentoring update
Jan 14 10:12:49 <barry>	any comments from mentors or mentats?  any graduations imminent? :)
Jan 14 10:13:51 *	barry taps the mic and asks "is this thing on?"
Jan 14 10:14:45 <barry>	well, anyway, that's all i've got.  trying to keep the meeting short and sweet.
Jan 14 10:15:01 <barry>	any last minute comments?
Jan 14 10:16:40 <barry>	okaythen!
Jan 14 10:16:43 <barry>	#endmeeting

Jan 14 10:24:31 <mars>	LP's simple_sendmail can't be blamed for that :)
Jan 14 10:24:41 <sinzui>	abentley: There is a mythical branch from spiv two years ago that would handle that.
Jan 14 10:24:58 <abentley>	barry: I think it would be much better to make "bzr send" do what we need than invent our own quirky thing that is kinda the same.
Jan 14 10:25:33 <barry>	barry_: your irc client sucks
Jan 14 10:25:39 <barry_>	barry: i know :(
Jan 14 10:25:47 <mars>	LOL
Jan 14 10:26:18 <abentley>	mars: Python's email module supports unicode headers when used correctly.
Jan 14 10:26:36 <mars>	ah
Jan 14 10:26:40 <danilos>	we'll get to see how it all works once I give it a try :)
Jan 14 10:26:55 <abentley>	mars: It's just a bit of a hassle to use it correctly.
Jan 14 10:27:05 <barry>	abentley: send would have to grow some hook points perhaps.  e.g. to do the lint checking and cover.txt prompting, etc.  is that feasible?
Jan 14 10:27:13 <mars>	danilos, it sends the mail and such, but you get this wayward mail after-the-fact.
Jan 14 10:27:29 <abentley>	barry: I think so.
Jan 14 10:27:33 <mars>	danilos, maybe it's trying to archive the mail or something when it blows up
Jan 14 10:27:52 <danilos>	mars: right, I'll pay close attention to see what's happening once I get to it
Jan 14 10:28:16 <barry>	abentley: cool.  here's to hoping there's a week 0 soon :)
Jan 14 10:29:35 <barry>	shall we move on to other topics?
Jan 14 10:30:17 <barry>	[TOPIC] action items
Jan 14 10:30:25 <barry>	i have made no progress on my two
Jan 14 10:30:35 <barry>	flacoste: any progress on API reviewer cheat sheet?
Jan 14 10:31:47 <flacoste>	barry, no i suck
Jan 14 10:31:54 <barry>	no worries :)
Jan 14 10:31:58 <flacoste>	well
Jan 14 10:31:59 <flacoste>	i should
Jan 14 10:32:10 <flacoste>	sucking like that 4 meeting in a row isn't good
Jan 14 10:32:13 <flacoste>	i should do it
Jan 14 10:32:18 <barry>	flacoste: kfogel has been making a lot of great progress on the dev wiki
Jan 14 10:32:18 <flacoste>	or either find somebody else to do it
Jan 14 10:32:26 <flacoste>	i saw
Jan 14 10:32:56 <kfogel>	oh, barry et al: I meant to ask if people are happy with the direction in the dev wiki
Jan 14 10:32:56 <barry>	cool.  we'll just keep it on the agenda for now anyway
Jan 14 10:33:32 <barry>	kfogel: in general, yes.  i found it a bit hard to find the pages i was looking for, but mostly because they'd been renamed (not that that reorg is a bad thing)
Jan 14 10:33:53 <barry>	kfogel: i think the thing that would /really/ help me is some progress on the outstanding dev wiki usability bugs
Jan 14 10:34:00 <kfogel>	barry: yes, sorry.  I'm aiming it at the newcomers, not us; the inconvenience should be temporary.
Jan 14 10:34:12 <kfogel>	barry: oh -- are these filed issues?  (I can search for them?)
Jan 14 10:34:41 <barry>	kfogel: oh, that's totally fine.  i'll get used to it.  yes, iirc they're all on the launchpad-docs project, but double check w/ mrevell
Jan 14 10:34:50 <kfogel>	*nod*
Jan 14 10:34:51 <kfogel>	will do
Jan 14 10:34:55 <barry>	thx!
Jan 14 10:35:06 <barry>	[TOPIC] mentoring update
Jan 14 10:35:26 <barry>	any updates from mentors or mentats?  any graduations imminent? :)
Jan 14 10:36:01 <allenap>	I think adeuring is due to graduate... he's pretty hot on reviews.
Jan 14 10:36:22 <adeuring>	allenap: thanks :)
Jan 14 10:36:22 <barry>	excellent
Jan 14 10:36:41 <barry>	allenap: send me an email and i'll make it official
Jan 14 10:36:52 <allenap>	barry: Cool, okay :)
Jan 14 10:38:31 <barry>	great!  well, that's all i have today.  unless you have anything else, we can break now and i can spend the next 3.79 hours trying to figure out why xchat is so horribly broken for me now, and then another 6.12 days switching to irc-in-emacs only to punt on it all and stick with <cough>colloquy</cough>
Jan 14 10:39:20 <gary_poster>	barry: <mutter>that's what I'm using :-D </mutter>
Jan 14 10:39:32 <barry>	:)
Jan 14 10:39:52 <barry>	gary_poster: maybe i should use irooms on my iphone :)
Jan 14 10:40:00 <gary_poster>	heh
Jan 14 10:40:23 <barry>	okay then!
Jan 14 10:40:26 <barry>	#endmeeting


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