1 <matsubara> #startmeeting
   2 <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is matsubara.
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   4 <matsubara> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues. 
   5 <matsubara> [TOPIC] Roll Call 
   6 <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
   7 <matsubara> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us! 
   8 <Chex> here
   9 <gary_poster> me
  10 <abentley> matsubara, hello, my name is rockstar
  11 <gary_poster> heh
  12 <matsubara> hi abentley, welcome :-)
  13 <abentley> (rockstar is not well)
  14 <flacoste> me
  15 <matsubara> just saw his email, thanks for standing in
  16 <matsubara> bigjools, danilos, Ursinha, sinzui, allenap: hi
  17 <bigjools> o/
  18 <allenap> me
  19 <matsubara> ok, let's move on while others can join in later
  20 <matsubara> [TOPIC] Agenda 
  21 <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
  22 <matsubara>  * Actions from last meeting
  23 <matsubara>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  24 <matsubara>  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
  25 <matsubara>  * DBA report (stub)
  26 <matsubara>  * Proposed items
  27 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
  28 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
  29 <matsubara>  * matsubara to email Tim about https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1488EA174 and 
  30 <matsubara>     * Filed bug 520446 and emailed Tim about it.
  31 <matsubara>  * matsubara to talk to leonard about https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1488EA884
  32 <matsubara>     * Talked to leonard about this one, details added to bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/271029
  33 <matsubara>  * rockstar to investigate OOPS-1480CMP1 and fill in details on bug 517126
  34 <matsubara>  * matsubara to ask stub to send the dba report to the list
  35 <matsubara>     * emailed stub about this week and last week report (2010-02-11)
  36 <matsubara>  * rockstar to raise the importance of ensuring sufficient monitoring of this part (i.e. branch updates emails failing to be delivered) of code-hosting by thumper
  37 <matsubara>  * Gary talk about "too many different kinds of moving parts" in our architecture. If we have fewer moving parts then we can institute more uniform nagios-like-checks.
  38 <matsubara>  * Ursinha to talk to rockstar about bug 514461
  39 <matsubara>    * rockstar said: "yes, I have been trying to get it landed for a week.  If it got into production-stable, then I'm going to have it CP'd today (02/04)."
  40 <matsubara>  * Ursinha to talk to mwhudson about bug 513412
  41 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1488EA174
  42 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 520446 in launchpad-code "OOPS creating duplicate merge proposal using API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520446
  43 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1488EA884
  44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 517126 in launchpad-code "BzrCheckError raised creating a merge proposal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/517126
  45 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1480CMP1
  46 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 271029 in launchpad-foundations "ForbiddenAttribute exception raised changing property of object" [Medium,Triaged]
  47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 514461 in launchpad-code "scan_branches.py screams and no one is listening" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514461
  48 <ubottu> Bug 513412 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/513412 is private
  49 <matsubara> gary_poster, did you talk about your meeting action during the TLs meeting?
  50 * mrjazzcat (~mrjazzcat@c-24-9-91-150.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #launchpad-meeting
  51 <gary_poster> matsubara: yes I did.  It is now in BjornT's hands to decide what, if anything, we do about it, I think
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  53 <Ursinha> matsubara: I talked to rockstar but not with mwhudson, sorry
  54 <matsubara> gary_poster, ok, thanks for bringing that up
  55 <matsubara> [action] * Ursinha to talk to mwhudson about bug 513412
  56 <ubottu> Bug 513412 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/513412 is private
  57 <MootBot> ACTION received:  * Ursinha to talk to mwhudson about bug 513412
  58 <ubottu> Bug 513412 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/513412 is private
  59 <matsubara> [action] * rockstar to investigate OOPS-1480CMP1 and fill in details on bug 517126
  60 <MootBot> ACTION received:  * rockstar to investigate OOPS-1480CMP1 and fill in details on bug 517126
  61 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 517126 in launchpad-code "BzrCheckError raised creating a merge proposal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/517126
  62 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1480CMP1
  63 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1480CMP1
  64 <abentley> matsubara, it appears this was not completed.
  65 <matsubara> it wasn't. I'm re-adding it to the meeting action items so I can bring it up again next week
  66 <matsubara> I think that's it for actions from the last meeting
  67 <matsubara> let's move on
  68 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  69 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  70 <matsubara> abentley, I filed bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/520482
  71 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 520482 in launchpad-code "ValueError oops raised creating merge proposal with different values for review_types and reviewers" [Undecided,New]
  72 <abentley> matsubara, rockstar did raise the oops issue with us.
  73 <matsubara> ubuntu bug?
  74 * salgado-lunch is now known as salgado
  75 <abentley> matsubara, okay, is there something you want me to do about that bug?
  76 <matsubara> abentley, could you please fill in the details in the bug report?
  77 <matsubara> abentley, fill in the details about the oops rockstar discussed in the code team
  78 <matsubara> about bug 520482, could you triage and get that one assigned?
  79 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 520482 in launchpad-code "ValueError oops raised creating merge proposal with different values for review_types and reviewers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520482
  80 <matsubara> there's another one related to that bug 520446, which I emailed tim about today
  81 <abentley> matsubara, sorry, I meant that rockstar raised the issue of monitoring emails.
  82 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 520446 in launchpad-code "OOPS creating duplicate merge proposal using API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520446
  83 <matsubara> abentley, cool.
  84 <abentley> matsubara, sure I can set the status high, but why do you believe it should be assigned immediately?
  85 <matsubara> abentley, setting it to high and nobody taking ownership means it'll stay there forever
  86 <matsubara> abentley, otoh, maybe it's not a big deal
  87 <matsubara> although it's the second top oops on yesterday's lpnet report
  88 <abentley> matsubara, no, it doesn't.  I have been working on high bugs this week and last.
  89 <abentley> matsubara, and there are oops bugs that I think should be fixed before this one.
  90 <matsubara> abentley, that's cool. setting it to triaged and some status according to your teams priority is already good enough for me, as long as those oopses don't fall through the cracks
  91 <matsubara> gary_poster, any news about bug 450593?
  92 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 450593 in launchpad-foundations "Still seeing non-informational DisconnectionErrors on login servers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450593
  93 <matsubara> still seeing some DE errors on lpnet summaries
  94 <gary_poster> matsubara: I don't think that's the most up-to-date bug on this, but could be wrong.  I'll investigate for next mtg
  95 <matsubara> gary_poster, and bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/403618 ? it's the top one on edge summaries. can we get someone assigned to fix that one?
  96 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 403618 in launchpad-foundations "Launchpad should return a 404 instead of ForbiddenAttribute OOPS" [High,Triaged]
  97 <gary_poster> matsubara: ack
  98 <gary_poster> will do
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 100 <matsubara> [action] gary_poster to check status on work for DisconnectionErrors (bug 450593) and assign bug 403618 to someone in foundations
 101 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 450593 in launchpad-foundations "Still seeing non-informational DisconnectionErrors on login servers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450593
 102 <MootBot> ACTION received:  gary_poster to check status on work for DisconnectionErrors (bug 450593) and assign bug 403618 to someone in foundations
 103 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 403618 in launchpad-foundations "Launchpad should return a 404 instead of ForbiddenAttribute OOPS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403618
 104 <matsubara> ok, that's all for oops
 105 <matsubara> let's see the scripts and critical bugs
 106 <matsubara> karma-updater failing again, which sinzui already replied to
 107 * jtv (~jtv@jtv.xs4all.nl) has joined #launchpad-meeting
 108 <matsubara> checkwatches hung and killed by spm
 109 <matsubara> allenap, is someone chekcing that checkwatches issues? can you reply to the email spm sent to the list?
 110 * DavidLevin has quit (Quit: Leaving)
 111 <allenap> matsubara: I haven't seen that message, unless it was some time ago?
 112 <matsubara> allenap, my email client says spm sent his email 11 hours ago
 113 <matsubara> allenap, subject Re: Scripts failed to run: loganberry:karma-update, loganberry:allocate-revision-karma, loganberry:launchpad-stats, loganberry:expire-questions, loganberry:checkwatches, loganberry:productreleasefinder, loganberry:update-cache, loganberry:launchpad-targetnamecacheupdater
 114 <allenap> matsubara: Cool, found it. I'll reply.
 115 <matsubara> thanks allenap 
 116 <matsubara> we have 5 critical bugs
 117 <matsubara> 3 fix committed and 2 triaged
 118 <matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/511567
 119 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 511567 in launchpad-foundations "Can't remove authorised oauth tokens" [Critical,Triaged]
 120 <matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/514267
 121 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 514267 in launchpad-foundations "InternalError on clusters under busy load" [Critical,Triaged]
 122 <matsubara> the latter one seems to be in progress
 123 <matsubara> gary_poster, and the former one doesn't seem critical. is it really?
 124 <gary_poster> matsubara: no.
 125 <matsubara> ok. set to high then. IIRC, Curtis had a branch to fix that one
 126 <matsubara> I'll assign to him
 127 <gary_poster> ah ok, thanks
 128 <matsubara> ok, thanks everyone. let's move on
 129 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
 130 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
 131 <Chex> hello everyone
 132 <Ursinha> wq
 133 <Ursinha> oops, sorry :/
 134 <Chex> - New branch-scanner setup again with 8944 CP; seems to be working well now.
 135 <Chex> - DB Relication Lag/Slave-master issue: We are still running on the fake lag script pointing all traffic at the main
 136 <Chex>         production db.  It appears as though we are blocked on Stuart's return before any progress is likely to be made
 137 <Chex>         on this.
 138 <Chex> - LP incidents of note:
 139 <Chex>         ; LP Cherry-picks: 8944 to Codehost; loganberry bzrsyncd on 08-Feb,
 140 <Chex>             CP 8945; rolled out to: germanium/ppa respectively on 10-Feb
 141 <Chex> anyone have questions/comments on this?
 142 * DavidLevin (~dslevin@67-210-33-186.ul.warwick.net) has joined #launchpad-meeting
 143 <matsubara> thanks Chex 
 144 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
 145 <MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
 146 <matsubara> I emailed stub to sent the DBA report to the list
 147 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Proposed items
 148 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Proposed items
 149 <matsubara> no new proposed items
 150 <matsubara> anything else before I close?
 151 <sinzui> yes
 152 <matsubara> go ahead sinzui 
 153 <sinzui> http://people.canonical.com/~lpqateam/test-plan-report-10.02.html
 154 <sinzui> ^ Is every team looking at this every day?
 155 <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~lpqateam/test-plan-report-10.02.html
 156 <abentley> sinzui, no idea.
 157 <jtv> sinzui: cool, I wasn't aware of that one... will there be a single link for the current milestone?
 158 <sinzui> matsubara: I moved some contributor landings from other testplans listed on to the wiki to my teams wiki page because I was tracking the bug on my teams milestone...there is a disconnect between where the wiki entry is and the qa-needtesting bug tag
 159 <sinzui> jtv: I added the link to milestones I watch so that I am reminded of this: https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+milestone/10.02
 160 <matsubara> sinzui, what do you mean by disconnect between the wiki entry and the qa-needstesting tag?
 161 <jtv> sinzui: I hope this will become fully LP-native at some point, it's very cool!
 162 <matsubara> sinzui, AFAICT, only translations is using the qa-needstesting tag
 163 <Ursinha> sinzui: that happens because the scripts track the committers and not the teams
 164 <sinzui> matsubara: jpds's bugs are on ^ my milestone page, but his entries are added to a different wiki page tan my entires, so I must hunt for them
 165 <matsubara> sinzui, you mean LaunchpadTestPlan wiki page?
 166 <bigjools> that will get even more disconnected as we do more feature-based teams
 167 <sinzui> We agreed we would all use them starting in 10.02
 168 <Ursinha> sinzui: so if henninge commits a fix for a bug in registry, it will show up in translations test plan
 169 <matsubara> that's because external contributors don't have a team
 170 <matsubara> they work on whatever they want
 171 <sinzui> matsubara: correct
 172 <abentley> jml is showing up under code team, but he isn't part of that team anymore.
 173 <sinzui> Ursinha: Correct
 174 <matsubara> so, that's why they end up in the LP test plan wiki page
 175 <Ursinha> matsubara: correct :)
 176 <matsubara> do I get a A+ for all the above correct answers?
 177 <Ursinha> sinzui: this can be changed if needed, it's just a matter of thinking about how
 178 <Ursinha> matsubara: :)
 179 <sinzui> I would prefer to never visit the wiki. I need to visit the wiki to prove QA is being done
 180 <jml> please give me my own page! :)
 181 <Ursinha> sinzui: I'm working on it
 182 <bigjools> jml: would it have anything on it?  /me hides
 183 <Ursinha> sinzui: and I thought that the migration would be done after all possible problems pointed in the experiment being fixed
 184 <sinzui> actually, jml and mrevell do need a page
 185 <sinzui> or something that makes it easy to see that they have verified their work this cycle
 186 <sinzui> I do not think mrevell knows he has lots of entries hidden on a page from last release
 187 <matsubara> [action] Ursinha to set up StrategyTeamTestPlan wiki for jml,mrevell
 188 <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ursinha to set up StrategyTeamTestPlan wiki for jml,mrevell
 189 <mrevell> sinzui, Hidden entries?
 190 <matsubara> sinzui, I usually remind him
 191 <Ursinha> sinzui: if you're talking about the Launchpad testplan, we usually poke him for that
 192 <matsubara> but it's better if the strategy team has their own TP
 193 <matsubara> hi mrevell  :-)
 194 <Ursinha> matsubara: sinzui, that would be easy to do
 195 <Ursinha> but the idea is to get rid of wikis, right?
 196 <mrevell> hey matsubara, I'll talk to you outside the meeting
 197 <sinzui> mrevell: https://dev.launchpad.net/LaunchpadTestPlan/10.01
 198 <Ursinha> I thought there was an agreement on it! Or maybe I got it wrong
 199 <Ursinha> I'll set up the page for them to use while we don't migrate
 200 <abentley> kanban is also supposed to be tracking QA.  Do we have a plan to keep everything in sync?
 201 <matsubara> Ursinha, we will get rid of the wiki once the work on bug tagging is done. if that's not ready yet, my suggestion is to create the wiki page for jml and mrevell so they will be able to track the QA needed for their work
 202 <matsubara> kanban too?
 203 <matsubara> that's new to me
 204 <Ursinha> so to me
 205 <sinzui> abentley: BjornT will be working on syncing via API
 206 <Ursinha> ah
 207 <Ursinha> ok
 208 <sinzui> abentley: BjornT wants every change in LP sent to the kanban boards
 209 <matsubara> oh
 210 <matsubara> Ursinha, I guess you'll need to talk to BjornT then
 211 <matsubara> before working on the qa tagging thing
 212 <mrjazzcat> matsubara: or me :-)
 213 <Ursinha> matsubara: actually no
 214 <Ursinha> matsubara: well, he's going to perform a search on bugs with tags and yada
 215 <Ursinha> matsubara: I'll talk to him to confirm that :)
 216 <matsubara> my point exactly :-)
 217 <matsubara> anyway, sinzui, do you have anything else?
 218 <sinzui> matsubara: no
 219 <matsubara> thanks. as a general reminder, please try to keep an eye on the test plan report page for the current cycle, and spread the word to your teammates: http://people.canonical.com/~lpqateam/test-plan-report-10.02.html
 220 <matsubara> I think that brings the meeting to an end
 221 <matsubara> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda for the logs. 
 222 <matsubara> #endmeeting