DevelopmentMeeting20100401

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   1 <Ursinha> #startmeeting
   2 <Ursinha> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.
   3 <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:01. The chair is Ursinha.
   4 <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
   5 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Roll Call
   6 <Ursinha> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us!
   7 <Ursinha> me
   8 <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
   9 <gary_poster> me
  10 <sinzui> me
  11 <allenap> me
  12 <rockstar> me
  13 <chex> me
  14 <Ursinha> awesome
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  16 <Ursinha> bigjools is missing
  17 * matsubara (~matsubara@canonical/launchpad/matsubara) has joined #launchpad-meeting
  18 <Ursinha> matsubara, hello buddy
  19 <Ursinha> I asked al-maisan if he can join us in behalf of soyuz
  20 <Ursinha> moving on
  21 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Agenda
  22 <Ursinha>  * Actions from last meeting
  23 <Ursinha>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  24 <Ursinha>  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
  25 <Ursinha>  * DBA report (stub)
  26 <Ursinha>  * QA stats of the week
  27 <Ursinha>  * Proposed items
  28 <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
  29 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
  30 <Ursinha>  * Ursinha to send email to TLs about QA summaries
  31 <Ursinha>    * I haven't, I suck. Will do that before my EOD
  32 <Ursinha>  * matsubara to triage open oops-tools bugs
  33 <Ursinha>  * sinzui to follow up in work with losas to set the increase threshold for the product release finder monitoring script
  34 <Ursinha>  * allenap to discuss with deryck about OOPS-1544A949 and file a bug for OOPS-1545E465.
  35 <Ursinha>    * OOPS-1544A949 is really bug 433995 <https://launchpad.net/bugs/433995>.
  36 <Ursinha>    * Bug 547063 <https://launchpad.net/bugs/547063> has been filed for OOPS-1545E465.
  37 <Ursinha>  * matsubara to fix linked bug for OOPS-1545E465
  38 <Ursinha>     * done.
  39 <Ursinha>  * gary_poster to discuss OOPS-1541O1653 with salgado and file a bug for it.
  40 <Ursinha>     * https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/547054
  41 <Ursinha>  * matsubara to email stub asking the dba report
  42 <Ursinha>     * done.
  43 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
  44 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1544A949
  45 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1545E465
  46 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 433995 in malone "Cannot edit importance, status or assignee after changing project inline" [High,Triaged]
  47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 433995 in malone "Cannot edit importance, status or assignee after changing project inline" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433995
  48 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1544A949
  49 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 547063 in malone "None isn't acceptable as a value for BugActivity.person" [High,In progress]
  50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 547063 in malone "None isn't acceptable as a value for BugActivity.person" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/547063
  51 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1545E465
  52 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1545E465
  53 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1541O1653
  54 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 547054 in launchpad-foundations "AssertionError: Don't try to render this page when the user is logged in." [High,Fix committed]
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  56 <Ursinha> matsubara, what about yours?
  57 <matsubara> not done the triage, please re-add
  58 <Ursinha> yes sir
  59 <matsubara> I think I fixed the linke bug for that oops
  60 * salgado is now known as salgado-lunch
  61 <Ursinha> [action]  matsubara to triage open oops-tools bugs
  62 <MootBot> ACTION received:   matsubara to triage open oops-tools bugs
  63 <Ursinha> matsubara, it's marked "done", so I guess you did
  64 <danilos> me
  65 <danilos> :)
  66 <Ursinha> sinzui, what about yours?
  67 <Ursinha> danilos, you're late boss
  68 <Ursinha> :P
  69 * danilos is sorry, lucid is all over him now
  70 <Ursinha> excuses, excuses... 
  71 <sinzui> Ursinha, I have not done that
  72 <Ursinha> sinzui, do you intend to?
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  74 <sinzui> yes. I think it is not as important as the real oopses and blockages that my team have
  75 <Ursinha> [action] sinzui to follow up in work with losas to set the increase threshold for the product release finder monitoring script 
  76 <MootBot> ACTION received:  sinzui to follow up in work with losas to set the increase threshold for the product release finder monitoring script
  77 <sinzui> wrong action
  78 <sinzui> Ursinha, the losas will not make changes to the scripts. they invited me to submit a patch
  79 <Ursinha> sinzui, ah, ok
  80 <Ursinha> sinzui, so it's up to you to send a patch and fix that
  81 <Ursinha> ?
  82 <sinzui> correct
  83 <Ursinha> [action] cancel last item
  84 <MootBot> ACTION received:  cancel last item
  85 <Ursinha> sinzui, is there a bug for that?
  86 <Ursinha> I can file one and then remove the action item
  87 <Ursinha> we can follow up in the bug then
  88 <sinzui> not that I am aware of. I do not even know which project minds that code
  89 <Ursinha> sinzui, I'll go figure that out
  90 * sinzui has a team and QA crisis last week and this week
  91 <Ursinha> [action] Ursinha to file a bug about setting the increase threshold for the product release finder monitoring script
  92 <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ursinha to file a bug about setting the increase threshold for the product release finder monitoring script
  93 <Ursinha> sinzui, QA crisis?
  94 <Ursinha> we can discuss that during the qa stats section...
  95 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  96 <Ursinha> oops section is all foundations today: four bugs
  97 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  98 <sinzui> the suggest packages feature on the product page was bad. I did not want users to see an incomplete feature
  99 <sinzui> We could not fix the feature because we were blocked on another feature.
 100 <Ursinha> sinzui, ah, I recall the discussion
 101 <Ursinha> gary_poster: I filed bug 553361 re. the referrer oops. is it hard to fix?
 102 <Ursinha> gary_poster: also filed bug 553368 re. the DiscoveryFailures
 103 <Ursinha> gary_poster: and bug 474774 is responsible for about 30 oopses a day, any chances of being fixed soon? :)
 104 <Ursinha> gary_poster: is bug 547054 really fixed? I still see a few oopses in lpnet
 105 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 553361 in launchpad-foundations "OOPS when accessing launchpad with no referrer, eg. via wget" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553361
 106 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 553368 in launchpad-foundations "Better handling of errors when trying to login when the op is down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553368
 107 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 474774 in launchpad-foundations "Non-ascii in the URL causes an OOPS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/474774
 108 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 547054 in launchpad-foundations "AssertionError: Don't try to render this page when the user is logged in." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/547054
 109 <gary_poster> 553361: we'll get that this cycle.  I'm not sure what the right solution is, but whatever it is, it shud be easy.
 110 <gary_poster> it is scheduled for this cycle
 111 <Ursinha> gary_poster, great
 112 <gary_poster> 553368: will probably triage low
 113 <Ursinha> 553361 has about 1k oopses in lpnet partial summaries :/
 114 <gary_poster> 474774: noure we'll have time this cycle, but maybe.
 115 <gary_poster> not sure
 116 <gary_poster> 547054: if we are still getting OOPSes, then I suppose it is not fixed.  The remaining situations should be fairly low priority, but I'll ask salgado about them.
 117 <Ursinha> thanks gary_poster 
 118 <gary_poster> thank you
 119 <Ursinha> we have one bugs' oops, that allenap already found the bug and triaged as high: bug 365092
 120 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 365092 in malone "Some bugs have BugMessage records with no corresponding MessageChunk records" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365092
 121 <Ursinha> oops-prune, expire-ppa-files and calculate-bug-heat have been failing
 122 <Ursinha> the last one, according to spm, was running while the check ran, should we change something to fix that?
 123 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=prune
 124 <Ursinha> the failing scripts, that is
 125 <allenap> Ursinha: It's named calculate_bug_heat (note the underscores) in the script. Could that cause this?
 126 <allenap> chex: ^
 127 <Ursinha> allenap, that's just my typo, sorry
 128 <chex> allenap: ok, looking at it
 129 <allenap> As in, does this check refer to ScriptActivity, or is it an OS thing.
 130 <Ursinha> who should take care of the running scripts, losas or foundations?
 131 <allenap> Ursinha: I can talk to chex about this outside of the meeting.
 132 <Ursinha> thanks allenap :)
 133 <chex> allenap: sorry, I need more context here, not quite following, my apologies
 134 <Ursinha> [action] allenap to talk to chex after the meeting about the calculate_bug_heat failing script
 135 <MootBot> ACTION received:  allenap to talk to chex after the meeting about the calculate_bug_heat failing script
 136 <Ursinha> about the other two
 137 <Ursinha> [action] Ursinha to investigate about oops-prune and expire-ppa-files failing scripts
 138 <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ursinha to investigate about oops-prune and expire-ppa-files failing scripts
 139 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=prune
 140 <Ursinha> moving on
 141 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=prune
 142 <Ursinha> we have three critical bugs, all fix committed
 143 <Ursinha> I suppose they were rolled out yesterday
 144 <Ursinha> moving on
 145 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
 146 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
 147 <Ursinha> or chex :P
 148 * Ursinha pokes ChanServ 
 149 <Ursinha> errr
 150 * Ursinha pokes chex 
 151 <chex> wow
 152 <chex> sorry folks.. here is the LOSA report for this week
 153 <chex> - Launchpad Full Production V10.03 was rolled-out on Wednesday morning, some replication issues
 154 <chex>         caused the roll-out to take a hour longer than expected.
 155 <chex>      Some notes:
 156 <chex>         : The SSO DB Migration project is now complete, SSO is now using its own master DB.
 157 <chex>         : A Handful of scripts needed to be modified to work after the rollout,
 158 <chex>         mostly due to master/slave Postgres access changes, and have been fixed.
 159 <chex>         : There will be readonly downtime tomorrow at 09:00 UTC while we switch the authDB master
 160 <chex>         for LP which will complete the "SplitIt" project.
 161 <matsubara> Ursinha, keep poking ChanServ and it'll kick ban you hehe
 162 <chex> - ImportD large imports still causing problems:
 163 <chex>         : Pear had to be restarted last Thur 25-Apr after a large git import,
 164 <chex>         Bug# 536486 is still relevant.
 165 <chex> and thats all for this week, any comments/questions?
 166 <Ursinha> bug 536486
 167 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 536486 in launchpad-code "Svn import of ruby taking 2.7G RSS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/536486
 168 <gary_poster> (yay about SplitIt!)
 169 <Ursinha> chex, mwhudson was working on bug 536486, it seems, but has no assignee now
 170 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 536486 in launchpad-code "Svn import of ruby taking 2.7G RSS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/536486
 171 <Ursinha> rockstar, do you know something about that?
 172 <rockstar> Ursinha, well, it's a bug in bzr-git and jelmer is investigating it.
 173 <rockstar> The Kernel import has the same issue.
 174 <Ursinha> rockstar, bzr-git? so not launchpad actually?
 175 <rockstar> Ursinha, yes, at least that's what we believe.
 176 <rockstar> But what "launchpad" means is a bit fuzzy.  It's the import worker that has the issue.
 177 <Ursinha> rockstar, right.. can you explain that in the bug, please?
 178 <Ursinha> maybe add another bugtask to bzr-git
 179 <rockstar> Ursinha, I'm sure I can have someone else do it.
 180 <Ursinha> rockstar, thank you very much
 181 <chex> Ursinha: thank you guys, this is a serious problem we need to address somehow..
 182 <Ursinha> [action] rockstar to find someone to look at bug 536486 and update it
 183 <MootBot> ACTION received:  rockstar to find someone to look at bug 536486 and update it
 184 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 536486 in launchpad-code "Svn import of ruby taking 2.7G RSS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/536486
 185 <chex> rockstar: you as well, sorry. :)
 186 <Ursinha> anyone else?
 187 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
 188 <Ursinha> stub is excused due to our "late" meeting, he already sent the report to the list
 189 <MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
 190 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * QA stats of the week
 191 <MootBot> New Topic:  * QA stats of the week
 192 <Ursinha> our list of untriaged bugs of this week:
 193 <Ursinha> Soyuz (soyuz): 27
 194 <Ursinha> launchpadlib  (launchpadlib): 25
 195 <Ursinha> OOPS Tools (oops-tools): 16
 196 <Ursinha> Launchpad Developer Utilities (lp-dev-utils): 9
 197 <Ursinha> Launchpad Auto Build System (launchpad-buildd): 6
 198 <Ursinha> Launchpad Development Wiki Moin theme (launchpad-dev-moin-theme): 5
 199 <Ursinha> Launchpad Bazaar Integration (launchpad-code): 5
 200 <Ursinha> Launchpad Bugs (malone): 5
 201 <Ursinha> Launchpad Foundations (launchpad-foundations): 4
 202 <Ursinha> Launchpad Translations (rosetta): 3
 203 <Ursinha> Launchpad Buildbot Configuration (lpbuildbot): 2
 204 <Ursinha> trac-launchpad-migrator (trac-launchpad-migrator): 2
 205 <Ursinha> launchpad-loggerhead (launchpad-loggerhead): 2
 206 <Ursinha> Launchpad News WordPress Theme (launchpad-news-wordpress-theme): 2
 207 <Ursinha> Launchpad QA Utilities (lp-qa-tools): 2
 208 <Ursinha> Launchpad Help Wiki Moin theme (launchpad-help-moin-theme): 2
 209 <Ursinha> Launchpad CSCVS (launchpad-cscvs): 2
 210 <Ursinha> Launchpad itself (launchpad): 1
 211 <Ursinha> Launchpad Documentation (launchpad-documentation): 1
 212 <Ursinha> Tickcount (tickcount): 1
 213 <Ursinha> I see soyuz is looking much better now!
 214 <Ursinha> rockstar, you have bugs this week :)
 215 <rockstar> Ursinha, only one, and I have no idea how to just dismiss the bug like I want to.
 216 <Ursinha> about the other projects, it would be nice to triage the bugs
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 220 <rockstar> It looks like everyone is doing well triaging.
 221 <Ursinha> rockstar, yes, indeed
 222 <Ursinha> I'm talking about the smaller projects
 223 <Ursinha> like loggerhead, lp-buildd
 224 <Ursinha> well, I'll poke people after the meeting about them :)
 225 <gary_poster> consider launchpadlib poked
 226 <Ursinha> [action] Ursinha to talk to people about the untriaged bugs of smaller projects
 227 <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ursinha to talk to people about the untriaged bugs of smaller projects
 228 <rockstar> Is loggerhead really the sole responsibility of Launchpad?  I thought it was generally a community project that we happened to be eating.
 229 <Ursinha> gary_poster, thanks :)
 230 <Ursinha> rockstar, that's a good question; those projects are the ones under the lp-project group
 231 <Ursinha> rockstar, and that's exactly what I'd like to figure out, which ones we have to keep track of
 232 <rockstar> Well, technically Tarmac should also be there (I think it's currently in the bazaar group, which is wrong)
 233 <gary_poster> Ursinha: to really make me weep, you can include lazr.restfulclient, lazr.restful and wadllib in the list... :-) ...and probably other lazr.* packages
 234 <rockstar> Ursinha, also, I think we want to disavow all knowledge of CSCVS one day.
 235 <Ursinha> gary_poster, those ones aren't included in lp project, right?
 236 <gary_poster> Ursinha: right.  You might be able to just point it to lazr project
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 238 <gary_poster> Though that be a bad idea
 239 <gary_poster> since it includes stuff like Storm
 240 <Ursinha> [action] Ursinha to send one email to lp list about the untriaged bugs in lp-project and others
 241 <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ursinha to send one email to lp list about the untriaged bugs in lp-project and others
 242 <Ursinha> gary_poster, I'll send one email to lp list then we can discuss it better 
 243 <gary_poster> cool, Ursinha
 244 <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Proposed items
 245 <Ursinha> Anyone?
 246 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Proposed items
 247 <Ursinha> I'll consider that a no :)
 248 <Ursinha> well
 249 <Ursinha> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda for the logs.
 250 <Ursinha> happy Easter for those who have it :)
 251 <Ursinha> #endmeeting

DevelopmentMeeting20100401 (last edited 2010-04-01 17:08:14 by ursinha)