1 <matsubara> #startmeeting
   2 <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:02. The chair is matsubara.
   3 <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
   4 <matsubara> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues. 
   5 <matsubara> [TOPIC] Roll Call 
   6 <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
   7 <sinzui> me
   8 <matsubara> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us! 
   9 <Ursinha-sprint> me
  10 <adeuring> me
  11 <adeuring> (replacing allenap today)
  12 <matsubara> Chex, hi
  13 <Chex> me
  14 <matsubara> rockstar, hi
  15 * rockstar stumbles into the meeting
  16 <matsubara> gary won't be around today, I'll be standing in for foundations
  17 * henninge (~henning@canonical/launchpad/henninge) has joined #launchpad-meeting
  18 <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, :)
  19 <matsubara> hi henninge 
  20 <henninge> Hi Ursinha-sprint ;)
  21 <henninge> Hi matsubara ;)
  22 <matsubara> hmm bigjools is not around
  23 <matsubara> noodles775, can you stand in for soyuz?
  24 <henninge> matsubara: at somehands
  25 <sinzui> matsubara, he not avialable today
  26 <matsubara> all right. we can move on and if something comes up specific to soyuz, I'll contact them
  27 <matsubara> [TOPIC] Agenda 
  28 <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
  29 <matsubara>  * Actions from last meeting
  30 <matsubara>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  31 <matsubara>  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
  32 <matsubara>  * DBA report (stub)
  33 <matsubara>  * QA stats of the week
  34 <matsubara>  * Proposed items
  35 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
  36 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
  37 <matsubara>  * matsubara to talk with gary_poster about  a CP for bug 553361
  38 <matsubara>     * Done, fixed. I'll will request a CP.
  39 <matsubara>  * allenap to bump bug 230106 to High and explain why
  40 <matsubara>     * Done.
  41 <matsubara>  * matsubara to discuss bug 54005 with gary_poster
  42 <matsubara>     * Done. I'll file an RT for this one.
  43 <matsubara>  * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
  44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 553361 in launchpad-foundations "OOPS when accessing launchpad with no referrer, eg. via wget" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553361
  45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 230106 in malone "emails interface oops reports need better error messages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230106
  46 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 54005 in launchpad-foundations "bugs.launchpad.ubuntu.com email ending up in Launchpad mailbox" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54005
  47 <matsubara> for 553361, I'll land it today and request the CP
  48 <matsubara> I filed rt #39164 for bug 54005
  49 <matsubara> Ursinha-sprint, did you have time to triage lp-qa-tools bugs?
  50 <Ursinha-sprint> matsubara, I haven't done mine
  51 <matsubara> [action] * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
  52 <MootBot> ACTION received:  * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
  53 <matsubara> let's move on
  54 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  55 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
  56 <matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/575976 -- sinzui already triaged. thanks!
  57 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 575976 in launchpad-registry "Person.__repr__ causes an oops masking the real error because displayname is unicode" [Low,Triaged]
  58 <matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/576015 -- also already triaged by Tim. rockstar send my thanks to him, please :-)
  59 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 576015 in launchpad-code "+addbranch oops with a TypeError" [High,Triaged]
  60 <matsubara> and there's this weird keyerror: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops/?oopsid=OOPS-1585G1243 
  61 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1585G1243
  62 <sinzui> matsubara, I can fix that in before our next meeting
  63 <matsubara> which I'll bring up to the foundations team and file a bug
  64 <matsubara> [action] matsubara to talk to foundations about OOPS-1585G1243 
  65 <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to talk to foundations about OOPS-1585G1243
  66 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1585G1243
  67 <ubottu> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1585G1243
  68 <matsubara> that's great to hear sinzui. thanks!
  69 <matsubara> we have some broken scripts: ppa-generate-keys which noodles775 is taking care of
  70 <matsubara> calculate_bug_heat is failing. adeuring can you follow up the script failure email sent to the list please?
  71 <henninge> Also, template generation from branches is not working yet.
  72 <adeuring> matsubara: sure
  73 <matsubara> [action] adeuring to follow up on calculate_bug_heat script failure
  74 <MootBot> ACTION received:  adeuring to follow up on calculate_bug_heat script failure
  75 <matsubara> we have 4 critical bugs, 2 in progress.
  76 <matsubara> one from soyuz and another one from foundations
  77 <matsubara> I'll chase the foundations one
  78 <matsubara> [action] matsubara to chase landing for bug 574493
  79 <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to chase landing for bug 574493
  80 <matsubara> [action] matsubara to chase landing for bug 575426
  81 <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to chase landing for bug 575426
  82 <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/574493)
  83 <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/574493)
  84 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 575426 in soyuz "SHA1-based copy checking breaks when there are expired sources in the target" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575426
  85 <matsubara> I think that's it for this section
  86 <matsubara> let's move on
  87 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
  88 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
  89 <Chex> hello everyone, here is this weeks report
  90 <matsubara> Chex, hi
  91 <matsubara> oops, go ahead
  92 <Chex> - LP rollout 10.04 occured on Tuesday; 04-May. Some issues were:
  93 <Chex>         : cesium: problems with buildmanager
  94 <Chex>         : guava: crash/lockup problems with codebrowse/loggerhead that were fixed by mwhudson
  95 <Chex>         : forster: issues with mailman, that an extensive cowboy fix was needed to get working.
  96 <Chex> - LP re-roll/CP 9336 on Wed 05-May: to address issues with codebrowse, mailman, and builddmanager.
  97 <Chex>         : The mailman, and builddmanager changes needed to be rolled back, for continued fixes.
  98 <Chex>         : codebrowse issues seemed to be address, is stable now after the mwhudson fix
  99 <Chex> wow, lots of typos, sorry for my poor grammar there. :/
 100 <Chex> anyone who can read that have any comments/questions??
 101 <matsubara> Chex, given that the mailman and builddmanager had to be rolled back, are we expecting another re-roll try? 
 102 <sinzui> Chex, you can always blame me as the cause of the poor grammar
 103 <matsubara> Chex, hmm actually, I think Francis said they will be CP later on using the regular CP process
 104 <matsubara> Chex, so, nm :-)
 105 <Chex> matsubara: yes I just saw his email to that effect, we have opened PQM now
 106 <matsubara> cool. thanks Chex 
 107 <Chex> matsubara: welcome, and thanks
 108 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
 109 <MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
 110 <matsubara> I'll ask stub for the DBA report 
 111 <Chex> sinzui: ;) I can write poorly on my own..
 112 <matsubara> [action] matsubara to ask for the DBA report
 113 <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to ask for the DBA report
 114 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * QA stats of the week
 115 <MootBot> New Topic:  * QA stats of the week
 116 <matsubara> launchpad-buildd: 12
 117 <matsubara> malone: 10
 118 <matsubara> lp-dev-utils: 9
 119 <matsubara> launchpadlib: 9
 120 <matsubara> launchpad-dev-moin-theme: 6
 121 <matsubara> launchpad-foundations: 6
 122 <matsubara> soyuz: 4
 123 <matsubara> lp-qa-tools: 3
 124 <matsubara> launchpad-help-moin-theme: 3
 125 <matsubara> lpbuildbot: 2
 126 <matsubara> trac-launchpad-migrator: 2
 127 <matsubara> launchpad-news-wordpress-theme: 2
 128 <matsubara> launchpad-cscvs: 2
 129 <matsubara> launchpad: 1
 130 <matsubara> launchpad-web: 1
 131 <matsubara> oops-tools: 1
 132 <matsubara> launchpad-loggerhead: 1
 133 <matsubara> launchpad-documentation: 1
 134 <matsubara> tickcount: 1
 135 <matsubara> those are the projects with untriaged bugs
 136 <matsubara> Code: 1
 137 <matsubara> Foundations: 1
 138 <matsubara> Registry: 0
 139 <matsubara> Bugs: 7 needstesting, 1 bad
 140 <matsubara> Translations: 2
 141 <matsubara> Soyuz: 2
 142 <matsubara> Strategy: 0
 143 <matsubara> and those are the untested items
 144 <Ursinha-sprint> lp-qa-tools is my fault
 145 <Ursinha-sprint> left from 10.04
 146 <matsubara> which means some QA wasn't done in time for the release
 147 <matsubara> or the tags weren't updated
 148 <matsubara> in any case, no cookies for you guys!
 149 <matsubara> well, only for sinzui
 150 <matsubara> and jono
 151 <matsubara> well, jml
 152 <sinzui> answers and blueprints are 0 too
 153 <Ursinha-sprint> three cookies for sinzui
 154 <matsubara> hehehe
 155 <Ursinha-sprint> another thing to note is the number of orphaned commits this cycle
 156 <Ursinha-sprint> we had 86 OC in 226 commits, I wonder if all of them are really unQAable
 157 <Ursinha-sprint> these in devel branch: https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/QATeam/OrphanedCommits/10.04-devel
 158 <Ursinha-sprint> 28 out of 150 in db-devel branch: https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/QATeam/OrphanedCommits/10.04-db-devel
 159 <Ursinha-sprint> I'd like to ask all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
 160 <matsubara> [action] all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
 161 <MootBot> ACTION received:  all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
 162 <Ursinha-sprint> I wonder if anyone is reading that :)
 163 <Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, sinzui, adeuring, henninge, noodles775, hi :)
 164 <rockstar> Ursinha-sprint, hi
 165 <adeuring> Ursinha-sprint: yes, I'm making notes ;)
 166 <Ursinha-sprint> adeuring, thanks :)
 167 <henninge> matsubara: I read it now.
 168 <henninge> Ursinha-sprint: ^
 169 <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, thanks :)
 170 <henninge> matsubara: I only see one untested bug left, I think the other was retargeted.
 171 <henninge> matsubara: and this one is critical.
 172 <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, is the bug left really testable/landed this cycle?
 173 <henninge> Ursinha-sprint: it was in the re-roll (the config change) but the server were it takes effect has been reverted ... ;)
 174 <henninge> :(
 175 <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, oh :/
 176 <sinzui> Ursinha-sprint, I am sorry that I did not check that before. Those items were checked as a part of other bugs, or were changes to the test infrastructure
 177 <henninge> bug 575065
 178 <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, I see
 179 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 575065 in rosetta "Enable automatic generation of templates" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575065
 180 <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, thanks for the info
 181 <Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, could you take that to your team, please?
 182 <rockstar> Ursinha-sprint, yes.
 183 <Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, thanks a lot
 184 <sinzui> I wil ask that my team as developers or reviewer to insist on bug numbers to track why the change was made
 185 <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, thanks! that'd be really great
 186 <sinzui> ec2 land looks to the main reason we are missing bug numbers
 187 <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, I thought ec2land added automatically the bug number to the commit message
 188 <Ursinha-sprint> if the bug is linked, of course..
 189 <Ursinha-sprint> linked to the mp, that is
 190 <matsubara> sinzui, is it broken? why is it the main reason?
 191 <sinzui> I think that is correct. I see a lot of contributor branches that do not link bugs
 192 <sinzui> I am just noting that most of the problem branches were landed using ec2 land
 193 <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, hm, interesting
 194 <matsubara> please, QA contacts, as developers and reviewers, remind your teammates that --fixes=lp:NNNN can be used to help out there.
 195 <matsubara> when a commit is made using --fixes, LP will do the right thing automagically and avoid the extra work
 196 <matsubara> anyway, I think that's it
 197 <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Proposed items
 198 <MootBot> New Topic:  * Proposed items
 199 <matsubara> there's no proposed items
 200 <matsubara> anything else before I close?
 201 <matsubara> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda  for the logs. 
 202 <matsubara> #endmeeting 
 203 <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:35.