ReviewerMeeting20090107

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ReviewerMeeting20090107

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Jan 07 10:00:31 <barry> #startmeeting
Jan 07 10:00:31 <MootBot>       Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is barry.
Jan 07 10:00:31 <MootBot>       Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
Jan 07 10:00:49 <barry> hi everybody.  happy new year and welcome to the first ameu reviewer's meeting of 2009.  who's here today?
Jan 07 10:00:53 <allenap>       me
Jan 07 10:01:00 <sinzui>        me
Jan 07 10:01:02 <intellectronica>       me
Jan 07 10:01:11 <bac>   me
Jan 07 10:01:31 *       flacoste (n=francis@canonical/launchpad/flacoste) has joined #launchpad-meeting
Jan 07 10:01:40 <flacoste>      me
Jan 07 10:02:05 <barry> gmb, salgado, and rockstar all send their apologies
Jan 07 10:02:27 <barry> adeuring: ping
Jan 07 10:02:38 <EdwinGrubbs>   me
Jan 07 10:02:40 <adeuring>      whoops, me
Jan 07 10:02:46 <barry> bigjools, cprov danilos ping
Jan 07 10:02:58 <bigjools>      moo
Jan 07 10:02:59 <barry> mars: ping
Jan 07 10:03:04 <bigjools>      cprov is out
Jan 07 10:03:09 <barry> bigjools: cool, thanks
Jan 07 10:03:38 <mars>  me
Jan 07 10:03:45 <mars>  thanks barry
Jan 07 10:04:02 *       al-maisan (n=al-maisa@p5087C157.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #launchpad-meeting
Jan 07 10:04:42 <barry> it's a very light agenda for today...
Jan 07 10:04:46 <barry> [TOPIC] agenda
Jan 07 10:04:47 <MootBot>       New Topic:  agenda
Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry>  * Roll call
Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry>  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry>  * Action items
Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry>  * Mentoring update
Jan 07 10:05:06 <barry> [TOPIC] peanut gallery
Jan 07 10:05:07 <MootBot>       New Topic:  peanut gallery
Jan 07 10:05:36 <barry> i literally have nothing on the agenda for today, so before i get to action items, let me throw it open to the floor.  do you all have any topics you'd like to discuss?
Jan 07 10:06:06 <bigjools>      are we any closer to solving circular imports with the API?
Jan 07 10:06:53 <bigjools>      I guess not :)
Jan 07 10:06:53 <barry> not from me.  i didn't get a chance to work on that over the break
Jan 07 10:06:56 <barry> ;)
Jan 07 10:08:10 <barry> one thing i would like people to start thinking about is how (maybe: if :) we're going to do reviews of contributions when we open source lp
Jan 07 10:08:34 <barry> we don't need to solve that now, but as we get closer i'd like to have a strategy for that
Jan 07 10:09:10 <barry> ok!
Jan 07 10:09:14 <barry> [TOPIC] action items
Jan 07 10:09:15 <MootBot>       New Topic:  action items
Jan 07 10:09:21 <barry>  * barry to look into techniques for eliminating back-patching of schema types (avoiding circular imports)
Jan 07 10:09:24 <barry> not done
Jan 07 10:09:30 <barry>  * barry to add `pretty()` functions to reviewers docs
Jan 07 10:09:32 <barry> not done
Jan 07 10:09:37 <barry>  * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet
Jan 07 10:09:51 <flacoste>      not done
Jan 07 10:10:28 <barry> [TOPIC] mentoring update
Jan 07 10:10:29 <MootBot>       New Topic:  mentoring update
Jan 07 10:10:42 *       barry doesn't even remember who we're still mentoring
Jan 07 10:11:00 *       al-maisan is mentored by gmb
Jan 07 10:11:13 <barry> al-maisan, gmb how are things going?
Jan 07 10:11:36 <barry> of course gmb isn't here, so al-maisan you can rip on him if you want :)
Jan 07 10:11:36 <allenap>       I'm mentoring abel.
Jan 07 10:11:46 <allenap>       He's brilliant :)
Jan 07 10:11:56 <barry> excellent!
Jan 07 10:11:56 <adeuring>      allenap: uh, thanks !
Jan 07 10:12:02 <al-maisan>     I did reviews on two Mondays and these went reasonably well.
Jan 07 10:12:29 <bigjools>      allenap: so you might say he's very abel to do his job
Jan 07 10:12:35 <barry> har har
Jan 07 10:12:55 *       bigjools is here all week, enjoy the buffet
Jan 07 10:13:03 <al-maisan>     On some of the days I had a lot of work to do and didn't do any reviews.
Jan 07 10:13:19 <al-maisan>     I guess that somewhat of a general "problem"
Jan 07 10:13:20 <barry> bigjools: don't forget to tip your bartenders
Jan 07 10:13:33 <al-maisan>     *that's*
Jan 07 10:13:36 <barry> al-maisan: yep, that's the way it goes sometimes
Jan 07 10:14:01 <barry> btw, we have some new padders who might make good mentats
Jan 07 10:14:25 <allenap>       bigjools: Oh my. Couldn't you have taken some more holiday?
Jan 07 10:14:44 <barry> should we roust up a fresh batch of noobs?
Jan 07 10:14:51 <allenap>       bigjools: Or maybe that would make it worse :)
Jan 07 10:15:10 <barry> :)
Jan 07 10:15:13 <bigjools>      barry: I was thinking that we have particularly good community contributions we can turn them into reviewers
Jan 07 10:15:42 <bigjools>      allenap: it can get worse? :)
Jan 07 10:15:45 <barry> bigjools: kind of like for bzr?
Jan 07 10:15:59 <bigjools>      dunno how bzr works
Jan 07 10:16:21 *       barry should have pinged abentley
Jan 07 10:16:23 <bigjools>      and maybe commit access when people have built up trust
Jan 07 10:17:18 <barry> one thing though: we'll have to be careful about keeping the overall vision reins so things don't get committed that we're not cool with
Jan 07 10:17:19 <intellectronica>       i think best is to first require contributors to arrange a sponsor, and then pick good contributors to get commit access
Jan 07 10:18:44 <bigjools>      yep
Jan 07 10:18:50 <barry> +1
Jan 07 10:18:54 <bigjools>      like I said, they'll need to build trust first
Jan 07 10:19:17 <intellectronica>       where a sponsor is someone you talk to before starting to work on something, when you get it to review and when it's time to commit
Jan 07 10:20:42 <barry> btw, internally, i think henning, gary and noodles are available for mentoring
Jan 07 10:21:08 <barry> but they may need a little more baking (or in noodle's case, boiling)
Jan 07 10:22:27 <barry> well.  maybe that's it for today.  i've got nothing. shall we end early?
Jan 07 10:22:46 <barry> 5
Jan 07 10:23:00 <barry> 4
Jan 07 10:23:15 <barry> 3
Jan 07 10:23:21 <barry> 2
Jan 07 10:23:24 <barry> 1
Jan 07 10:23:27 <barry> #endmeeting

ReviewerMeeting20090107 (last edited 2009-01-07 15:26:50 by barry)