ReviewerMeeting20090107
summary
- starting to think about how to review contributions after open sourcing
log
Jan 07 10:00:31 <barry> #startmeeting Jan 07 10:00:31 <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is barry. Jan 07 10:00:31 <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] Jan 07 10:00:49 <barry> hi everybody. happy new year and welcome to the first ameu reviewer's meeting of 2009. who's here today? Jan 07 10:00:53 <allenap> me Jan 07 10:01:00 <sinzui> me Jan 07 10:01:02 <intellectronica> me Jan 07 10:01:11 <bac> me Jan 07 10:01:31 * flacoste (n=francis@canonical/launchpad/flacoste) has joined #launchpad-meeting Jan 07 10:01:40 <flacoste> me Jan 07 10:02:05 <barry> gmb, salgado, and rockstar all send their apologies Jan 07 10:02:27 <barry> adeuring: ping Jan 07 10:02:38 <EdwinGrubbs> me Jan 07 10:02:40 <adeuring> whoops, me Jan 07 10:02:46 <barry> bigjools, cprov danilos ping Jan 07 10:02:58 <bigjools> moo Jan 07 10:02:59 <barry> mars: ping Jan 07 10:03:04 <bigjools> cprov is out Jan 07 10:03:09 <barry> bigjools: cool, thanks Jan 07 10:03:38 <mars> me Jan 07 10:03:45 <mars> thanks barry Jan 07 10:04:02 * al-maisan (n=al-maisa@p5087C157.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #launchpad-meeting Jan 07 10:04:42 <barry> it's a very light agenda for today... Jan 07 10:04:46 <barry> [TOPIC] agenda Jan 07 10:04:47 <MootBot> New Topic: agenda Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry> * Roll call Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry> * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda) Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry> * Action items Jan 07 10:04:54 <barry> * Mentoring update Jan 07 10:05:06 <barry> [TOPIC] peanut gallery Jan 07 10:05:07 <MootBot> New Topic: peanut gallery Jan 07 10:05:36 <barry> i literally have nothing on the agenda for today, so before i get to action items, let me throw it open to the floor. do you all have any topics you'd like to discuss? Jan 07 10:06:06 <bigjools> are we any closer to solving circular imports with the API? Jan 07 10:06:53 <bigjools> I guess not :) Jan 07 10:06:53 <barry> not from me. i didn't get a chance to work on that over the break Jan 07 10:06:56 <barry> ;) Jan 07 10:08:10 <barry> one thing i would like people to start thinking about is how (maybe: if :) we're going to do reviews of contributions when we open source lp Jan 07 10:08:34 <barry> we don't need to solve that now, but as we get closer i'd like to have a strategy for that Jan 07 10:09:10 <barry> ok! Jan 07 10:09:14 <barry> [TOPIC] action items Jan 07 10:09:15 <MootBot> New Topic: action items Jan 07 10:09:21 <barry> * barry to look into techniques for eliminating back-patching of schema types (avoiding circular imports) Jan 07 10:09:24 <barry> not done Jan 07 10:09:30 <barry> * barry to add `pretty()` functions to reviewers docs Jan 07 10:09:32 <barry> not done Jan 07 10:09:37 <barry> * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet Jan 07 10:09:51 <flacoste> not done Jan 07 10:10:28 <barry> [TOPIC] mentoring update Jan 07 10:10:29 <MootBot> New Topic: mentoring update Jan 07 10:10:42 * barry doesn't even remember who we're still mentoring Jan 07 10:11:00 * al-maisan is mentored by gmb Jan 07 10:11:13 <barry> al-maisan, gmb how are things going? Jan 07 10:11:36 <barry> of course gmb isn't here, so al-maisan you can rip on him if you want :) Jan 07 10:11:36 <allenap> I'm mentoring abel. Jan 07 10:11:46 <allenap> He's brilliant :) Jan 07 10:11:56 <barry> excellent! Jan 07 10:11:56 <adeuring> allenap: uh, thanks ! Jan 07 10:12:02 <al-maisan> I did reviews on two Mondays and these went reasonably well. Jan 07 10:12:29 <bigjools> allenap: so you might say he's very abel to do his job Jan 07 10:12:35 <barry> har har Jan 07 10:12:55 * bigjools is here all week, enjoy the buffet Jan 07 10:13:03 <al-maisan> On some of the days I had a lot of work to do and didn't do any reviews. Jan 07 10:13:19 <al-maisan> I guess that somewhat of a general "problem" Jan 07 10:13:20 <barry> bigjools: don't forget to tip your bartenders Jan 07 10:13:33 <al-maisan> *that's* Jan 07 10:13:36 <barry> al-maisan: yep, that's the way it goes sometimes Jan 07 10:14:01 <barry> btw, we have some new padders who might make good mentats Jan 07 10:14:25 <allenap> bigjools: Oh my. Couldn't you have taken some more holiday? Jan 07 10:14:44 <barry> should we roust up a fresh batch of noobs? Jan 07 10:14:51 <allenap> bigjools: Or maybe that would make it worse :) Jan 07 10:15:10 <barry> :) Jan 07 10:15:13 <bigjools> barry: I was thinking that we have particularly good community contributions we can turn them into reviewers Jan 07 10:15:42 <bigjools> allenap: it can get worse? :) Jan 07 10:15:45 <barry> bigjools: kind of like for bzr? Jan 07 10:15:59 <bigjools> dunno how bzr works Jan 07 10:16:21 * barry should have pinged abentley Jan 07 10:16:23 <bigjools> and maybe commit access when people have built up trust Jan 07 10:17:18 <barry> one thing though: we'll have to be careful about keeping the overall vision reins so things don't get committed that we're not cool with Jan 07 10:17:19 <intellectronica> i think best is to first require contributors to arrange a sponsor, and then pick good contributors to get commit access Jan 07 10:18:44 <bigjools> yep Jan 07 10:18:50 <barry> +1 Jan 07 10:18:54 <bigjools> like I said, they'll need to build trust first Jan 07 10:19:17 <intellectronica> where a sponsor is someone you talk to before starting to work on something, when you get it to review and when it's time to commit Jan 07 10:20:42 <barry> btw, internally, i think henning, gary and noodles are available for mentoring Jan 07 10:21:08 <barry> but they may need a little more baking (or in noodle's case, boiling) Jan 07 10:22:27 <barry> well. maybe that's it for today. i've got nothing. shall we end early? Jan 07 10:22:46 <barry> 5 Jan 07 10:23:00 <barry> 4 Jan 07 10:23:15 <barry> 3 Jan 07 10:23:21 <barry> 2 Jan 07 10:23:24 <barry> 1 Jan 07 10:23:27 <barry> #endmeeting