ReviewerMeeting20090513

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May 13 10:00:54 <barry> #startmeeting
May 13 10:00:55 <MootBot>       Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is barry.
May 13 10:00:55 <MootBot>       Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
May 13 10:00:59 <gary_poster>   me
May 13 10:01:09 <barry> hello everyone and welcome to this week's ameu reviewer's meeting.  who's here today?
May 13 10:01:09 <gary_poster>   (first post, first post!)
May 13 10:01:16 <gary_poster>   uh, me
May 13 10:01:17 <danilos>       me
May 13 10:01:19 <danilos>       gary_poster: :)
May 13 10:01:24 <adeuring>      me
May 13 10:01:25 <noodles775>    me too
May 13 10:01:26 <henninge>      me!!! ;)
May 13 10:01:32 *       Ursinha (n=ursula@canonical/launchpad/ursinha) has joined #launchpad-meeting
May 13 10:01:34 <bigjools>      me
May 13 10:01:34 <gmb>   Mi.
May 13 10:01:45 <mars>  me
May 13 10:01:46 <henninge>      gmb: It's Mii
May 13 10:01:48 <bac>   me
May 13 10:01:53 <henninge>      as in Wii
May 13 10:02:02 <intellectronica>       me
May 13 10:02:08 <gmb>   henninge: I was banging on the keyboard like a monkey. Be thankful you got what you did.
May 13 10:02:08 <salgado>       me
May 13 10:02:18 <gary_poster>   lol
May 13 10:02:51 <barry> allenap: ping
May 13 10:03:00 <allenap>       me
May 13 10:03:19 <barry> BjornT, cprov, EdwinGrubbs ping
May 13 10:03:26 <cprov> me
May 13 10:03:39 <BjornT>        me
May 13 10:03:43 <flacoste>      me
May 13 10:04:01 <barry> rockstar: sinzui ping
May 13 10:04:08 <barry> [TOPIC] == Agenda ==
May 13 10:04:08 <barry>  * Roll call
May 13 10:04:08 <barry>  * Action items
May 13 10:04:08 <barry>  * Mentoring update
May 13 10:04:08 <barry>  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
May 13 10:04:09 <MootBot>       New Topic:  == Agenda ==
May 13 10:04:16 <sinzui>        me
May 13 10:04:24 <barry> [TOPIC]  * Action items
May 13 10:04:25 <MootBot>       New Topic:   * Action items
May 13 10:04:33 <barry>  * gary_poster to take importfascist and rSP() discussion to ml
May 13 10:04:40 <gary_poster>   no, sorry
May 13 10:04:53 <barry> gary_poster: next time? :)
May 13 10:05:10 <gary_poster>   I hope so :-)  Looking for that info now
May 13 10:05:18 <barry> cool, thx
May 13 10:05:19 <barry>  * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet
May 13 10:05:26 *       flacoste whistles
May 13 10:05:46 <barry> :)
May 13 10:05:55 <barry> [TOPIC]  * Mentoring update
May 13 10:05:56 <MootBot>       New Topic:   * Mentoring update
May 13 10:05:59 <bigjools>      whistling while you work?
May 13 10:06:02 <sinzui>        It's not exported until there is  a test
May 13 10:06:28 *       sinzui found a field that was not really exported, and there was no test to verify it was broken
May 13 10:06:31 <barry> any updates, problems, issues, questions, comments from mentats or mentors?
May 13 10:06:42 <henninge>      I'm fine .
May 13 10:06:52 <noodles775>    not really... I'm enjoy the learning process so far :)
May 13 10:07:32 <barry> great!
May 13 10:07:48 <barry> thanks mentors
May 13 10:07:55 <barry> [TOPIC]  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
May 13 10:07:55 <MootBot>       New Topic:   * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
May 13 10:08:06 <barry> that's all i have for today, do you all have anything?
May 13 10:09:07 <barry> i guess not
May 13 10:09:16 <barry> looks like maybe we're done in record time?
May 13 10:09:24 <henninge>      Y nodd
May 13 10:09:31 <henninge>      ;)
May 13 10:09:33 <barry> 5
May 13 10:09:36 <barry> 4
May 13 10:09:40 <barry> 3
May 13 10:09:44 <barry> 2
May 13 10:09:46 <barry> 1
May 13 10:09:50 <barry> #endmeeting

=== AsiaPac ==

May 13 18:32:32 <barry> #startmeeting
May 13 18:32:32 <jml>   hi?
May 13 18:32:32 <MootBot>       Meeting started at 17:32. The chair is barry.
May 13 18:32:32 <MootBot>       Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
May 13 18:32:37 <jml>   wasn't it in +0.5?
May 13 18:32:53 <barry> i think we're on the half hour
May 13 18:33:06 <barry> AsiaPac Wednesday 13-May-2009 2230 UTC - 2315 UTC
May 13 18:33:20 <barry> thumper, mwhudson are you here?
May 13 18:33:23 <mwhudson>      yeah
May 13 18:33:46 <thumper>       yeah
May 13 18:33:49 <barry> i really have almost nothing, so i'll dispense with the formalities and throw it open to you guys
May 13 18:34:00 <mwhudson>      hey, this cycle is really short
May 13 18:34:16 <barry> mwhudson: indeed, but it's been my most productive one in months :)
May 13 18:34:44 <barry> thumper: you had an item?
May 13 18:34:47 <thumper>       yes
May 13 18:35:00 <thumper>       I've moved the LaunchpadObjectFactory to live in lp.testing.factory
May 13 18:35:09 <thumper>       and login, logout et al lp.testing
May 13 18:35:15 <thumper>       reviews should check this now
May 13 18:35:17 <jml>   phone, sorry
May 13 18:35:33 <thumper>       there are compability shims in canonical.launchpad.testing
May 13 18:35:37 <thumper>       that I'd like to see go
May 13 18:35:41 <barry> thumper: cool, thanks for doing the rename.  
May 13 18:35:45 <thumper>       but there were like a million places in the code
May 13 18:35:48 <thumper>       so I didn't do that
May 13 18:35:55 <thumper>       and my awk foo isn't that good
May 13 18:36:06 <barry> thumper: i know a great language that you could write it in
May 13 18:36:14 <thumper>       I did consider it
May 13 18:36:22 <thumper>       but it isn't a simple 1 -> 1 move
May 13 18:36:35 <barry> thumper: actually (seriously) check with sinzui.  he may have all the basic pieces
May 13 18:36:42 <thumper>       not enough
May 13 18:36:54 <thumper>       I used the rename-module script for most of it
May 13 18:37:01 <thumper>       but due to circular import crap
May 13 18:37:09 <barry> thumper: oh, and doctests /should/ be easy since none of them should explicitly import it
May 13 18:37:13 <thumper>       I couldn't import the factory into lp.testing.__init__
May 13 18:37:14 <sinzui>        lp-dev-utils/migrater/rename_module path_to_old path_to_new
May 13 18:37:23 <thumper>       barry: they are done
May 13 18:37:28 <thumper>       barry: I fixed the globs
May 13 18:37:34 <barry> thumper: cool
May 13 18:37:53 <barry> thumper: why does lp.testing.__init__ need it?
May 13 18:38:00 <thumper>       barry: it doesn't
May 13 18:38:05 <thumper>       but the old import did that
May 13 18:38:08 <sinzui>        thumper: do you want to do a find and replace of an import path across the whole tree?
May 13 18:38:13 <thumper>       so you could get the factory from canonical.launchpad.testing
May 13 18:38:17 <barry> oh i see, and call sites used the old import
May 13 18:38:22 <thumper>       now you need to get it from lp.testing.factory
May 13 18:38:32 <thumper>       but login et al can come from lp.testing
May 13 18:38:47 <thumper>       sinzui: for a single class, yes
May 13 18:39:08 <thumper>       sinzui: although you could do it if you like :)
May 13 18:39:20 <thumper>       also, much mail stuff moved into lp.services.mail
May 13 18:39:35 <thumper>       so
May 13 18:39:36 <thumper>       sendmail
May 13 18:39:41 <thumper>       signed_message
May 13 18:39:44 <thumper>       some others
May 13 18:39:47 <thumper>       more needs to move
May 13 18:39:49 <thumper>       but I did some
May 13 18:40:05 <sinzui>        lp-dev-utils/migrater/find.py [-s 'new.path'] . . 'python_re_pattern'
May 13 18:40:20 <sinzui>        thumper: send me the module old and new path
May 13 18:40:36 <barry> thumper: can you add deprecation warnings to the shims?  i think that will fail the tests though
May 13 18:40:57 <thumper>       sinzui: LaunchpadObjectFactory from canonical.launchpad.testing to lp.testing.factory
May 13 18:41:07 <thumper>       barry: that was all
May 13 18:41:17 <thumper>       barry: that and poking others to continue moving stuff
May 13 18:41:32 <thumper>       :(
May 13 18:41:35 <thumper>       plasma just died
May 13 18:41:48 <barry> thumper: cool.  i suggest an email to the ml to motivate devs to do drive bys
May 13 18:42:08 <thumper>       relentless poking at all hands should suffice
May 13 18:42:18 <barry> cool, thanks
May 13 18:42:23 <barry> anything else from you guys?
May 13 18:42:31 <thumper>       not from me
May 13 18:42:37 <barry> jml, mwhudson ?
May 13 18:43:05 <barry> 4
May 13 18:43:09 <barry> 3
May 13 18:43:12 <mwhudson>      i'm moving canonical.codehosting to lp.codehosting\
May 13 18:43:16 <mwhudson>      noone else should care though
May 13 18:43:22 <barry> mwhudson: +1
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May 13 18:43:51 <barry> #endmeeting

ReviewerMeeting20090513 (last edited 2009-05-14 17:24:28 by barry)