ReviewerMeeting20090603

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Jun 03 10:04:00 <barry> #startmeeting
Jun 03 10:04:01 <MootBot>       Meeting started at 09:04. The chair is barry.
Jun 03 10:04:01 <MootBot>       Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
Jun 03 10:04:14 <barry> hello and welcome to this week's ameu reviewer's meeting.  who's here today?
Jun 03 10:04:18 <sinzui>        me
Jun 03 10:04:19 <mars>  me
Jun 03 10:04:24 <gary_poster>   me, and I didn't do what I was supposed to yet :-P
Jun 03 10:04:31 <noodles775>    me
Jun 03 10:04:31 <adeuring>      me
Jun 03 10:04:36 <barry> rockstar: sends his apologies
Jun 03 10:05:06 <barry> gary_poster: oh well, next week <wink>
Jun 03 10:05:11 <gary_poster>   :-)
Jun 03 10:05:15 *       flacoste (n=francis@24.202.83.45) has joined #launchpad-meeting
Jun 03 10:05:28 <barry> allenap: ping
Jun 03 10:05:30 <barry> bac: ping
Jun 03 10:05:36 <barry> BjornT: ping
Jun 03 10:05:40 <bac>   me
Jun 03 10:05:41 <barry> cprov: ping
Jun 03 10:05:42 *       abentley (n=abentley@CPE001a7046c8f9-CM001e6b233d5a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #launchpad-meeting
Jun 03 10:05:45 <barry> danilos: ping
Jun 03 10:05:46 <allenap>       me
Jun 03 10:05:47 <intellectronica>       me
Jun 03 10:05:48 <abentley>      me
Jun 03 10:05:51 <barry> EdwinGrubbs: ping
Jun 03 10:06:00 <EdwinGrubbs>   me
Jun 03 10:06:07 <barry> flacoste: ping
Jun 03 10:06:11 <flacoste>      me
Jun 03 10:06:13 <barry> gmb: ping
Jun 03 10:06:26 <cprov> me
Jun 03 10:06:26 <barry> salgado: ping
Jun 03 10:06:50 <barry> just another minute...
Jun 03 10:06:57 <danilos>       me
Jun 03 10:07:17 <barry> [TOPIC] agenda
Jun 03 10:07:17 <MootBot>       New Topic:  agenda
Jun 03 10:07:24 <barry> it's a light one today, not surprisingly
Jun 03 10:07:29 <salgado>       me
Jun 03 10:07:32 <barry>  * Roll call
Jun 03 10:07:32 <barry>  * Action items
Jun 03 10:07:32 <barry>  * Mentoring update
Jun 03 10:07:32 <barry>  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
Jun 03 10:07:41 <barry> [TOPIC] action items
Jun 03 10:07:42 <MootBot>       New Topic:  action items
Jun 03 10:07:49 <barry> we already know about gary_poster :)
Jun 03 10:07:55 <barry>  * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet
Jun 03 10:07:56 <gary_poster>   :-)
Jun 03 10:08:03 *       flacoste whistles innocently
Jun 03 10:08:12 <barry> we already know about flacoste :)
Jun 03 10:08:12 *       ubuntulog has quit (Connection timed out)
Jun 03 10:08:20 <danilos>       do we still need it?
Jun 03 10:08:30 <flacoste>      i think we do
Jun 03 10:08:36 <flacoste>      paradoxically
Jun 03 10:08:39 <noodles775>    lol
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Jun 03 10:08:49 <intellectronica>       we've done quite good without it for a long tim
Jun 03 10:08:53 <intellectronica>       time, even
Jun 03 10:08:53 <flacoste>      well
Jun 03 10:08:58 <danilos>       ok, let me rephrase the question: is it worth keeping it in the agenda?
Jun 03 10:09:03 <flacoste>      maybe not
Jun 03 10:09:09 <flacoste>      i know i need to do it
Jun 03 10:09:23 <barry> flacoste: i'll remove it.  
Jun 03 10:09:28 <flacoste>      there is a lot of tricky issues in API export that are often missed
Jun 03 10:09:33 *       ubuntulo1 is now known as ubuntulog
Jun 03 10:09:39 <flacoste>      updating the URLs being an obvious one
Jun 03 10:09:40 <barry> but i still think it would be a good thing to have
Jun 03 10:09:47 <flacoste>      but often things about the use of readonly
Jun 03 10:10:01 <flacoste>      the naming conventions are kind of understood
Jun 03 10:10:01 <barry> esp. because this will go in our dev wiki so it will be helpful to outside contributors
Jun 03 10:10:26 <flacoste>      btw, in the coming weeks we should be able to use launchpadlib for API testing within launchpad
Jun 03 10:10:43 <barry> flacoste: as a buildout benefit?
Jun 03 10:10:45 <flacoste>      once gary moves zope to buildout and we update all the lazr.* packages to the latest version
Jun 03 10:10:54 <flacoste>      barry: right on
Jun 03 10:11:02 <barry> nice!
Jun 03 10:11:06 <flacoste>      btw, anybody noticed the improved tags with buildout?
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Jun 03 10:11:24 <barry> flacoste: not yet!
Jun 03 10:11:47 <flacoste>      try it out! you can jump to symbol in the stdlib or stuff in any eggs
Jun 03 10:12:03 <barry> flacoste: bin/tags tracebacks for me
Jun 03 10:12:09 <flacoste>      oops
Jun 03 10:12:21 <flacoste>      ok, we'll look into this
Jun 03 10:12:29 <barry> flacoste: cool, thanks!
Jun 03 10:12:53 <barry> between that and jml most awesome emacs module, you will never lose a symbol again
Jun 03 10:13:00 <barry> moving on...
Jun 03 10:13:05 <barry> [TOPIC] mentoring update
Jun 03 10:13:06 <MootBot>       New Topic:  mentoring update
Jun 03 10:13:15 <barry> any feedback from mentors or mentats?
Jun 03 10:13:36 <adeuring>      I think it is time for Henning to graduate
Jun 03 10:13:52 <barry> adeuring: soon as he shows up to a reviewer's meeting <wink>
Jun 03 10:14:11 <noodles775>    I'm still enjoying Celso's mentoring :), looking forward to getting back into it tomorrow after the 2 week break.
Jun 03 10:14:13 <barry> adeuring: serious, that's great
Jun 03 10:14:28 <barry> noodles775: excellent!
Jun 03 10:14:31 <noodles775>    BTW: I think he's resting from Ubuflu at the moment...
Jun 03 10:14:49 <barry> :(
Jun 03 10:14:55 <barry> cool, anything else?
Jun 03 10:15:12 <barry> [TOPIC] peanut gallery
Jun 03 10:15:13 <MootBot>       New Topic:  peanut gallery
Jun 03 10:15:51 <barry> anybody have anything not on the agenda?  any barcelonan epiphanies about reviews?
Jun 03 10:16:02 <intellectronica>       remind your mentats to land javascript branches with [js] in the commit message
Jun 03 10:16:12 <abentley>      Now that bzr 1.5 is out, everyone should check out bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Elaunchpad/lpreview-body/trunk/
Jun 03 10:16:50 <abentley>      T‎his is a bzr plugin that automatically sets the message body for an lp review request to our standard template, and includes lint output.
Jun 03 10:16:50 <barry> intellectronica: do we have a pqm regexp for that now?
Jun 03 10:17:03 <noodles775>    niice
Jun 03 10:17:20 <cprov> err, sorry, was preparing a tea.
Jun 03 10:17:27 <abentley>      Of course, this only works with bzr send, so this is a good reason for everyone to use bzr send.
Jun 03 10:17:32 <intellectronica>       barry: no. we'd have to inspect the diff for something like that to work
Jun 03 10:17:45 <noodles775>    cprov: you're meant to be sleeping off your headache :)
Jun 03 10:18:01 <cprov> barry: noodles775 is doing great reviews, his graduation will come soon too.
Jun 03 10:18:21 <barry> intellectronica: so is this a [js=somebody] tag?
Jun 03 10:18:26 <barry> cprov: fantastic
Jun 03 10:18:41 <intellectronica>       barry: no, just [js]
Jun 03 10:18:57 <intellectronica>       to indicate that the branch requires testing on multiple platforms
Jun 03 10:18:58 <danilos>       abentley: bzr send is good, can you email the list about the plugin as well
Jun 03 10:19:00 <abentley>      Also, with the recent launchpad changes, you don't need to push before you send, and you don't need to use lpsend or send --no-bundle.
Jun 03 10:19:03 <mars>  barry, it is just a flag to QA that somebody needs to look at the branch in all the browsers
Jun 03 10:19:10 <danilos>       abentley: perhaps document it on dev.launchpad.net as well
Jun 03 10:19:10 <barry> intellectronica: k.  do all devs know about that?  maybe a msg to launchpad@ to remind people?
Jun 03 10:19:33 <intellectronica>       barry: we already had a message. i can send another one
Jun 03 10:19:35 <abentley>      danilos: Okay, but I already emailed the list, and no one responded, so I thought I should bring it up here.
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Jun 03 10:19:56 <barry> intellectronica: might not be a bad idea to remind people
Jun 03 10:20:11 <danilos>       abentley: ^^ :)
Jun 03 10:20:35 <danilos>       abentley: I am certainly going to check it out
Jun 03 10:20:42 <barry> abentley: yes, document on the dev wiki, and this sounds awesome
Jun 03 10:21:37 <abentley>      barry: will do.
Jun 03 10:21:53 <barry> abentley: thanks!
Jun 03 10:22:00 <barry> anything else guys?
Jun 03 10:22:29 <barry> 5
Jun 03 10:22:34 <barry> 4
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Jun 03 10:22:38 <abentley>      barry: It's not open-source, so does it make sense to document on the dev wiki?
Jun 03 10:23:21 <barry> abentley: i think it's fine.  i'd still rather have one place to find relevant information, but i'll leave it up to you
Jun 03 10:23:40 <barry> abentley: is there any reason it /can't/ be open source?
Jun 03 10:24:04 <abentley>      barry: Needs signoff from Mark or the holy trinity, and that hasn't happened yet.
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Jun 03 10:24:32 <barry> abentley: ok.  i'd say document it on the dev wiki and we can work toward open sourcing it
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Jun 03 10:24:54 <abentley>      barry: The ball is currently in kiko's court on open-sourcing.
Jun 03 10:25:22 <barry> abentley: let's keep the jfdi pressure on kiko then! :)
Jun 03 10:25:43 <barry> anybody have anything else?
Jun 03 10:25:52 <abentley>      barry: See https://wiki.canonical.com/OpenSource/Process
Jun 03 10:26:09 <barry> yeah
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Jun 03 10:26:50 <barry> #endmeeting

ReviewerMeeting20090603 (last edited 2009-06-10 23:25:20 by barry)